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It's an ELE for Media. They can't "see" into the courts. There is no place for them. The courts have no agenda at default. Without agenda Media drifts in the winds.
As Marv Albert would say... "owners deeeenniiieeddd"
It's an ELE for Media. They can't "see" into the courts. There is no place for them. The courts have no agenda at default. Without agenda Media drifts in the winds.
Admittedly he was asleep at the wheel until a week ago. Since then he's taken Stern to the woodshed repeatedly & at length.
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Pressing NBA sources if "reset" offer is now on the table. Response is something like "who would we give it to?"
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Stern: "We were very close and the players decide to blow it up. If there is a deal, we will do what we can to bring fans back.
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Stern says if union is trying to scare the owners, "that's not happening."
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Stern: "This sham of magically taking the union and become something else is just a big charade. Irresponsible giving the timing.
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Stern: "If I were a player, one of 450, I would wonder what it is Billy Hunter just did."
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Stern: Some owners thought proposal was too player-friendly. I was confident I could persuade them to approve it. Academic now."
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Stern: "Lot's of paychecks will be missed. Union decided proposal would not be submitted to membership. Now a nuclear winter of NBA."
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Stern: "All we do is put our fate in the lawyers and be guaranteed years of litigation."
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Stern: "Union seems bent on self destruction."
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Stern railing against Hunter and Kessler. "This is a negotiating tactic. It's not going to work. They should have done it a long time ago."
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Stern: "I think the chances of the season slipping away from us...it's really a tragedy."
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Stern: "We're not issuing idle threats. They are going to start a lawsuit? We don't even understand the strategy."
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Stern calls decertifying an "irresponsible action. Billy Hunter has put the season in jeopardy."
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Stern: "We anticipated this. We started a federal action against the union because they were bargaining in bad faith.
He was in the meeting today:
Even if it sucks for fans, players made the right move by not taking a deal that was bad for them. Now, I hope judges will side with players.
And@ Stern thinking than some tweets and a youtube video of a powerpoint presentation was enough to screw players.
The worst one is
Stern railing against Hunter and Kessler. "This is a negotiating tactic. It's not going to work. They should have done it a long time ago."
Even Stern say it
Stern is maaaadddd...
They called his bluff... he's as much responsible for this as Hunter...
Media was running as fast as they could, carrying water buckets & ends of logs for 72 hours straight.And
Uh, uh.
That's one thing that Stern has right. Months have been wasted.
I would argue that some weeks have, but some of it was unavoidable due to the lawsuit the NBA filed when the lockout started claiming bad faith negotiations from the union.
I think once that judge said the NBA's case was "thin", the union could've moved with this and not waste another two weeks or so.
Well, if Stern says it:::it's gotta be true.
Please. He ain't traveled the high road since ins uting that zero tolerance with the refs decree.
Stern must be depressed by all this. He was once regarded as the best commissioner in all of professional sports. Now this lockout and all that will follow will be his legacy.Stern is maaaadddd...
They called his bluff... he's as much responsible for this as Hunter...
We're never going to agree on that. I don't see how the NBA's lawsuit precluded the players from filing their own. Moot point now.
If we do a little history on this lockout, the NBA foresaw the union filing for decertification to follow the NFL's tactic last summer, and filed a pre-emptive lawsuit claiming bad faith from the union. So the union needed to at least show some good faith-negotiating before they would use the nuclear option. That said, it could've easily been last month, since there's no doubt that given the concessions and including the federal mediator they were negotiating in good faith.
Agree it's moot now
The only good thing is seeing Stern mad. I hate that er.
Stern's response:
OK it's more clear now
IIRC, Judge Gardephe called the league's allegation that the NBPA was threatening decertification as a negotiating tactic "thin." That allegation isn't so thin now that the NBPA has disclaimed.
It could have also been in July. The union leadership could have camped out in New York and held daily pressers in front of NBA offices demanding that the NBA come to the table. After a few days of unproductive talks, they could have made public appeals to bring in the federal mediator. They could have reached this impasse a long time ago.
They allowed Stern to control the calendar. It didn't have to be that way. Moot.
Stern's on the last proposal:
"But apparently it was not to liking of the players. We anticipated this."
Well, it isn't a negotiating tactic either, seeing that there's no longer an union to negotiate with.
Not to mention that both "disclaimer of interest" and decertification are both valid and legal resources the union has.
Ya think?
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