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    6'3'' with a 6'7'' wingspan ain't exactly small for a PG
    he is 6‘1, wingspan 6‘3“, reach 7‘11“, 164 lbs.
    he IS exactly small, also for a PG.

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    he is 6‘1, wingspan 6‘3“, reach 7‘11“, 164 lbs.
    he IS exactly small, also for a PG.
    learn how to read first. Let me put in bold for your slowass.

    I'm talking about Simons not Dillingham

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    6'3'' with a 6'7'' wingspan ain't exactly small for a PG
    Call him what you want, he's an awful defender. Guess size doesn't automatically translate to defense, huh?

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    As expected with the CP3 signing

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    As expected with the CP3 signing
    Or just that they were never really that interested in him period, or certainly not at Atlanta’s insane price.

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    Call him what you want, he's an awful defender. Guess size doesn't automatically translate to defense, huh?
    Malaki Branham is living proof of that

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    lol wanting Ingram now

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    Since the Hawks now own LAL25, you could see a path toward something like:

    Lakers: filler (because who cares? it's not going to happen), LAL29, LAL31, swap rights to LAL26, LAL28 and LAL30 for Young

    Spurs give: ATL25, ATL 27 and let the swap rights for ATL26 extinguish for LAL 25, NOP27/MKE27 (worse), LAL 29 and LAL 31

    Hawks Give: Young, LAL25 and NOP27/MKE27 (worse) for filler, ATL25, ATL27, swap rights to LAL26, LAL28 and LAL30

    The Lakers get Young
    The Spurs swap out the Hawks' near future for the Lakers' distant future
    The Hawks get their future back and still net some value from the Lakers.

    The Spurs doing this would depend on how much they value having extra picks in distant years. I'm not one of those people who believes the Hawks picks need to be kept at all costs, so getting four firsts in exchange for two firsts and a swap is enough to make me consider it. LAL's future isn't great, so having so many of their picks would be interesting. But the lack of control over LAL26-LAL28 or LAL30 is a bit of a wet blanket. The 2027 pick doesn't project to be great, but guaranteed firsts always have uses in mega trades.

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    wing with playmaking skills....

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    Amico has no credibility.

    Anyway, Ingram wouldn't be bad on paper, especially because NOP seems to really want a center who can shoot. They'd see Collins as decent filler But before Deeps slides in here, I don't know if I'd trade Keldon/Collins and firsts for Ingram. Maybe if he agreed to a reasonable extension (which would have to meet the extend-and-trade requirements and thus only be for two years), you could justify a couple of seconds. I'd be more inclined to add in some better picks if we were talking Graham and Collins as the outgoing salary.

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    wing with playmaking skills....
    This is hilarious. All these links to the Spurs, make me believe NONE of the links to the Spurs (including Markenen) are serious.

    On the flip side, i guess it shows Wemby they are "trying"

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    Amico is trash

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    wing with playmaking skills....
    Except for in the 4th qtr of the playoffs. Probably just using Spurs for traction, doubt the Spurs are actually interested

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    Since the Hawks now own LAL25, you could see a path toward something like:

    Lakers: filler (because who cares? it's not going to happen), LAL29, LAL31, swap rights to LAL26, LAL28 and LAL30 for Young

    Spurs give: ATL25, ATL 27 and let the swap rights for ATL26 extinguish for LAL 25, NOP27/MKE27 (worse), LAL 29 and LAL 31

    Hawks Give: Young, LAL25 and NOP27/MKE27 (worse) for filler, ATL25, ATL27, swap rights to LAL26, LAL28 and LAL30

    The Lakers get Young
    The Spurs swap out the Hawks' near future for the Lakers' distant future
    The Hawks get their future back and still net some value from the Lakers.

    The Spurs doing this would depend on how much they value having extra picks in distant years. I'm not one of those people who believes the Hawks picks need to be kept at all costs, so getting four firsts in exchange for two firsts and a swap is enough to make me consider it. LAL's future isn't great, so having so many of their picks would be interesting. But the lack of control over LAL26-LAL28 or LAL30 is a bit of a wet blanket. The 2027 pick doesn't project to be great, but guaranteed firsts always have uses in mega trades.
    If you really want to bend your brain, find a way to rope in the Jazz and route Markkanen to the Spurs, using some Lakers future draft control as the incentive for Utah, including unprotecting the 2027 Lakers first.

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    11094017[/URL]]wing with playmaking skills....
    No way Spurs want him around Wemby

    Spurs are going to be tied to ever trade possibility since they still have cap-space and draft picks.

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    Collins can't shoot and I'd have no interest in Ingram (injury prone, more of a secondary play maker, not really 3 and D and not very efficient because he doesn't make up for the lack of volume 3 with volume free throw's) and I highly doubt the Spurs would either.

    At this point, they're clearly just being thrown around with every big name thought to be available because they have the means, a lack of a true second option and the media wants them to speed up the re-build.

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    In my opinion the spurs are turning over every stone and have a set price for what they would pay for a complimentary star and teams aren’t settling for it, just my thoughts.

    Maybe it is because spurs have wemby/picks but the Demar interest points to them looking for upgrades in any way.

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    NOPe don't want Brandon Ingram.

    Ingram wants his bag and...

    Imo we're starting to see a further huge impact of the CBA. I don't think anyone in the league wants to pay Brandon Ingram the max, and he's probably not alone. Is Darius Garland worth the max? Is Lauri Markkanen worth the max?

    Teams, we now see, can get into incredible trouble maxing these 'pretty good' players who aren't really doing it in terms of winning. Injury prone, or limited skill sets, and so on. A lot of teams are already in cap ; other teams don't want to join them.

    It'll be fascinating to see whether these mid-tier players see what's happening and how they react.

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    the heat have interest in everyone

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    I'm starting to wonder if ANYONE has interest in Markkanen at this point. Like if the Heat with their one first-round pick that can be traded (two picks can be traded but one might disappear if MIA25 or MIA27 doesn't convey) can get into discussions, then there really isn't a market here. It's been pretty clear that people don't actually think Herro is valuable. Sure Miami has Ware, but the Jazz have so many young centers already that I doubt he'd be actual value. So either Miami is legit able to throw around their nothing package and get into talks, or they are just being brought up by Ainge as a way to try to drum up interest. It's not a good sign either way.

    The only alternative if could see is if Butler is traded, with the assets being routed to Utah to get a Markkanen payment together. I wouldn't know what team would be in on a Butler trade that could afford his salary and send back quality, though. Even with that wrinkle, the Spurs (or even Kings) could probably beat that package.

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    I'm starting to wonder if ANYONE has interest in Markkanen at this point. Like if the Heat with their one first-round pick that can be traded (two picks can be traded but one might disappear if MIA25 or MIA27 doesn't convey) can get into discussions, then there really isn't a market here. It's been pretty clear that people don't actually think Herro is valuable. Sure Miami has Ware, but the Jazz have so many young centers already that I doubt he'd be actual value. So either Miami is legit able to throw around their nothing package and get into talks, or they are just being brought up by Ainge as a way to try to drum up interest. It's not a good sign either way.

    The only alternative if could see is if Butler is traded, with the assets being routed to Utah to get a Markkanen payment together. I wouldn't know what team would be in on a Butler trade that could afford his salary and send back quality, though. Even with that wrinkle, the Spurs (or even Kings) could probably beat that package.
    How many times do I have to say this.

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    From reliable Bucks' beat writer


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    yeah this is where SRP rich teams gotta say a 1 is too much, but here are 4 SRPs instead

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