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    The issue isn't who can initiate the offense, it's ALWAYS who they guard.

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    We’ve seen glimpses of what amazing defense from a guard (Wesley) can yield for the Wemby-led Spurs and I’m not so sure it’s game-changing enough to want to invest in a guard projected in the top 10 whose greatest strength is his defense. Yeah, he’s a strong shooter. But IMO, this team needs a big boost in shot creation, generated by either the player’s offense or his ability to set others up.

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    Way to early, but here is my top 30 so far:

    2024 NBA Draft Board
    Tier 1:
    1. Zaccharie Risacher
    2. Alex Sarr
    3. Nikola Topic
    Tier 2:
    4. Matas Buzelis
    5. Tidjane Salaun
    6. Cody Williams
    7. JaKobe Walter
    8. Reed Shephard
    Tier 3:
    9. Robert Dillingham
    10. Stephen Castle
    11. Isaiah Collier
    12. Johnny Furphy
    13. Ron Holland
    14. Kyle Filipowski
    15. Ryan Dunn
    16. Tyler Smith
    17. Dalton Knecht
    Tier 4:
    18. Ke'lel Ware
    19. Yves Missi
    20. Donovan Clingan
    21. Zach Edey
    22. Bobi Klintman
    23. Kyshawn George
    24. Pacome Dadiet
    25. Trevon Brazile
    26. Kevin McCullar
    27. Tyrese Proctor
    28. Juan Nunez
    29. Tyler Kolek
    30. Tristan Da Silva
    Alexander Sarr since coming back from injury has been dominating for the perth wildcats. Taken it up another level.

    Very active on defense thru his mobility and length. . Still gets pushed around a little when it's a bigger body/ base if had to be critical but the man holds his own in general. His rim protection and man on man d is elite. More agile than Wemby, runs like a young Drob up n down the court.

    On offense. He more finnesse than power, in the post . Using his lenth and reliable outside shot he a matchup nightmare in the NBL. Very good at prsenting himself for pnr or pnp. Passes very good for a young big. Loves to share the ball and set screens. Comes off the bench, no worries at all


    Perth fans love him.
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    We’ve seen glimpses of what amazing defense from a guard (Wesley) can yield for the Wemby-led Spurs and I’m not so sure it’s game-changing enough to want to invest in a guard projected in the top 10 whose greatest strength is his defense. Yeah, he’s a strong shooter. But IMO, this team needs a big boost in shot creation, generated by either the player’s offense or his ability to set others up.
    and who is that in this draft

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    I think Spurs really need a PG that put pressure on defenses with drives and pick&roll. A pick&roll between Wembanyama and a point guard is such an easy and efficient way to start breaking down defenses.
    For this reason, I'm really not sold on Sheppard and Castle being good picks for Spurs. To me, there are 3 possible good options at PG for Spurs in this draft: Topic, Dilingham and Collier.

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    and who is that in this draft
    What Bruno said.

    Making the right pass, playing the right way, being efficient…. These are all normal things to want out of a player.

    but if we want anything more than the role players we’ve been getting for a while now, we need to get a player with FEEL, and the cajones to want to try exciting passes no matter how sloppy it is. Or to take the shot when no one else will. I put this attribute really high on my list of players to lookout for because it’s what separates a player from the rest. Glimpses of brilliance come with the price of inefficiency because performing it comes with higher risk. It’s what doesn’t show up on the stat sheet. When you know, you know.

    if you had another player outside of Wemby who could break down an offense? It’s over. That’s what Parker did with his ability to score at the rim and breathtaking speed. That’s what Ginobili did with his insane ability to see plays before they happen and his relentless will to make things happen.

    Now, if you have both attributes of what I described in the two paragraphs I said above, then that player has an almost sure chance of being a star and there are none in this draft so far.
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    Then, that pass by Reed to Thiero at the 1 minute mark, you can call exciting?

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    I agree with what the team needs but feel that Wright won't deviate from an archetype he is chasing, and will prioritize Cody or Kyshawn, no matter who is still on the board. Being a little sarcastic but not completely.
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    I'm with Bruno on that we need pick and roll abilities in this team, which we do not presently.

    PG / Lead Guard or whatever, we need good ball handling players

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    Dillingham or Topic, basically. Dill might have the edge that KU is holding him back whereas Topic might be overvalued, sort of an over correction for teams missing on Luka and Sengun.

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    Way to early, but here is my top 30 so far:

    2024 NBA Draft Board
    Tier 1:
    1. Zaccharie Risacher
    2. Alex Sarr
    3. Nikola Topic
    Tier 2:
    4. Matas Buzelis
    5. Tidjane Salaun
    6. Cody Williams
    7. JaKobe Walter
    8. Reed Shephard
    Tier 3:
    9. Robert Dillingham
    10. Stephen Castle
    11. Isaiah Collier
    12. Johnny Furphy
    13. Ron Holland
    14. Kyle Filipowski
    15. Ryan Dunn
    16. Tyler Smith
    17. Dalton Knecht
    Tier 4:
    18. Ke'lel Ware
    19. Yves Missi
    20. Donovan Clingan
    21. Zach Edey
    22. Bobi Klintman
    23. Kyshawn George
    24. Pacome Dadiet
    25. Trevon Brazile
    26. Kevin McCullar
    27. Tyrese Proctor
    28. Juan Nunez
    29. Tyler Kolek
    30. Tristan Da Silva
    I think Spurs really need a PG that put pressure on defenses with drives and pick&roll. A pick&roll between Wembanyama and a point guard is such an easy and efficient way to start breaking down defenses.
    For this reason, I'm really not sold on Sheppard and Castle being good picks for Spurs. To me, there are 3 possible good options at PG for Spurs in this draft: Topic, Dilingham and Collier.
    Are any of these guys can't miss types?
    Haliburton, Scoot? (Scoot has really kicked it up a notch after his very unimpressive start.)
    Another Haliburton level might be too good to be true but praying dog .jpg.
    I mean bona fide NBA starter material.

    I have yet to see enough video.

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    Are any of these guys can't miss types?
    Haliburton, Scoot? (Scoot has really kicked it up a notch after his very unimpressive start.)
    Another Haliburton level might be too good to be true but praying dog .jpg.
    I mean bona fide NBA starter material.

    I have yet to see enough video.
    I mean, Haliburton has massively overperformed his #12 draft pick, Scoot has struggled significantly after his #3 draft pick. Do you want us to do better than teams with million dollar budgets to do this?

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    I mean, Haliburton has massively overperformed his #12 draft pick, Scoot has struggled significantly after his #3 draft pick. Do you want us to do better than teams with million dollar budgets to do this?
    Yes

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    Reed Sheppard vs. Tyrese Haliburton

    https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...ese-haliburton

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    Are any of these guys can't miss types?
    Haliburton, Scoot? (Scoot has really kicked it up a notch after his very unimpressive start.)
    Another Haliburton level might be too good to be true but praying dog .jpg.
    I mean bona fide NBA starter material.

    I have yet to see enough video.
    There aren't any 'can't miss' types in this draft. Topic would be the best bet of the PnR Guards. Of the wings that can 'potentially' run the PnR, or at least attack the rim consistently, I'd probably put Matas at the top there.

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    Interesting.
    Dk if i can get over Sheppards minority status.

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    Reed is a can't miss role player?

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    Reed is a can't miss role player?
    Of my top 10, I'd say Risacher and Shephard are pretty close to 'can't' miss as role players. That's probably their floor.

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    There aren't any 'can't miss' types in this draft. Topic would be the best bet of the PnR Guards. Of the wings that can 'potentially' run the PnR, or at least attack the rim consistently, I'd probably put Matas at the top there.
    Or defenders could just go under the screen since Topic can't shoot.

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    Interesting.
    Dk if i can get over Sheppards minority status.
    If John Calipari can deal with it, so can you.

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    If John Calipari can deal with it, so can you.
    My bar is legit Championships.

    KY has done a real U-Turn.

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    my main concern is that Haliburton is a 6'5 PG while Sheppard is a 6'3 SG who play some PG. If he can play 100% PG, then he looks interesting. I haven't watched enough of him to see if that can be the case

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    I think Spurs really need a PG that put pressure on defenses with drives and pick&roll. A pick&roll between Wembanyama and a point guard is such an easy and efficient way to start breaking down defenses.
    For this reason, I'm really not sold on Sheppard and Castle being good picks for Spurs. To me, there are 3 possible good options at PG for Spurs in this draft: Topic, Dilingham and Collier.
    Collier is my pick

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    Collier could also play the two I’m thinking.

    Grab topic and collier = win

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    Or defenders could just go under the screen since Topic can't shoot.
    Topic is going to be a better shooter than most think.

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