NBA Trade Deadline 2019

[exstatic]

Can you stop with the whole “it doesn’t matter where you draft, it’s who is doing the drafting” take? It’s re ed, like dumber than dirt.

You responded with a take that had nothing to do with what I posted. I have literally NEVER said that it didn't matter where you drafted. I did provide multiple instances where PATFO drafted better at the end of the round than other teams did with repeated lottery picks. That was done to show the value of our picks to US. Dropping them on someone else's failed project has a lower chance of success than using them on a draft eligible player. I'm sorry that you're too impatient to wait for that to happen.

[R. DeMurre]

One tool the Spurs will have this summer for free agents is the sign and trade option. Someone like DeRozan won't have the straight up trade value he once might've had, but for a team looking at losing free agent, he's a good consolation prize.

I'm seeing a lot of praise for teams that are making moves but haven't won anything yet... we'll see how that pans out. There's an old John Wooden quote that comes to mind: "Don't mistake activity for achievement."

Philly tanked for half a decade. They're in 5th place in the East now, and just added Tobias Harris, who needs shots to be effective, and isn't a great defender.... Embiid and Butler have both already grumbled about getting enough shots this year. Their record is slightly better than San Antonio's, who've lost Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, Green, and Leonard in the last two years. We'll see if The Process amounts to anything more than playoff appearances-- the thing that currently isn't good enough for some Spur fans. During the Philly tank era, the Spurs had a 67 win season, made the finals twice, and won a championship. Let's see if Philly has a comparable run from now until 2023 or so.

[r0drig0lac]

At this point there is no need to take anyone when the guys that you pay the most(LMA, DD) are playing like trash especially on defense but some would say all around. I love Pop but he needs to retire and let this team do things the right way, the Sean Marks (the best gm in the nba with Jerry West) way, tanking like crazy for a few seasons.

[GreekSpursfan]

Philadelphia tanked for FIVE ing years, and still has no LoB (or even Finals appearance) to show for it. Draft picks, even high ones, are a crap shoot. You may tank, just to find yourself back in mediocrity, and probably should have stayed in playoff mode anyway.

If you draft well two years are enough, drafting was Hinkie's only weakness, he was bad at that, Noel, Okafor, some terrible stuff but he ac ulated a lot of picks in those 5 years. Nobody said tanking is easy, it stinks but it's the only way to get out of being treadmill of mediocrity. You need an upper echelon talent to build around not LMA or DD.

[exstatic]

If you draft well two years are enough, drafting was Hinkie's only weakness, he was bad at that, Noel, Okafor, some terrible stuff but he ac ulated a lot of picks in those 5 years. Nobody said tanking is easy, it stinks but it's the only way to get out of being treadmill of mediocrity. You need an upper echelon talent to build around not LMA or DD.

The DID hit on two players, Embiid and Simmons. In this day and age, you're not doing any better than that. They're STILL in the bottom half of the EC standings, struggling to climb up.

[TimDunkem]

If you draft well two years are enough, drafting was Hinkie's only weakness, he was bad at that, Noel, Okafor, some terrible stuff but he ac ulated a lot of picks in those 5 years. Nobody said tanking is easy, it stinks but it's the only way to get out of being treadmill of mediocrity. You need an upper echelon talent to build around not LMA or DD.

Some Spurs fans really think fadeaway 2s will get it done.

[sasaint]

Some Spurs fans really think fadeaway 2s will get it done.

Some people also think Dijon is a PG and DWhite a good 6th man.

[GreekSpursfan]

RC is handcuffed by Pop because he wants to be in the playoffs, wants to compete, even if he knows that this is leading nowhere. RC is fine as a GM. Sean Marks hasn't proven nothing yet, D.Russell isn't good enough imo, Levert the same, can't build a championship team around those guys, they are complementary pieces but thats about it. S. Marks has done a very good job thus far but that was the easy part, now it gets a lot harder, now he will have more pressure, he's in the biggest market of the NBA, if no free agents go there he blew it imo. 7,8 seed in the East especially this year means nothing to me., first round exist via a sweep probably. Jerry West is on another lvl BUT and i had to use capitals there, he's in LA with a billionaire supporting him who's probably gave him all the people he needs and more as far as scouting and monitoring players but i agree about him, he's great either way.

[Clipper Nation]

Philadelphia tanked for FIVE ing years, and still has no LoB (or even Finals appearance) to show for it. Draft picks, even high ones, are a crap shoot. You may tank, just to find yourself back in mediocrity, and probably should have stayed in playoff mode anyway.

The Sixers are at the beginning of their window with Embiid/Simmons. They have plenty of time to win a ring. And let's not forget how Silver derailed The Process midway through by forcing them to fire Hinkie and hire that buffoon Colangelo. If the league hadn't meddled in their rebuild, they'd probably be in an even better position than they are now.

Needless to say, I don't think anyone in Philly regrets giving up on their core of Jrue/Thad/Turner and the 35-win seasons that came with it.

[r0drig0lac]

RC is handcuffed by Pop because he wants to be in the playoffs, wants to compete, even if he knows that this is leading nowhere. RC is fine as a GM. Sean Marks hasn't proven nothing yet, D.Russell isn't good enough imo, Levert the same, can't build a championship team around those guys, they are complementary pieces but thats about it. S. Marks has done a very good job thus far but that was the easy part, now it gets a lot harder, now he will have more pressure, he's in the biggest market of the NBA, if no free agents go there he blew it imo. 7,8 seed in the East especially this year means nothing to me., first round exist via a sweep probably. Jerry West is on another lvl BUT and i had to use capitals there, he's in LA with a billionaire supporting him who's probably gave him all the people he needs and more as far as scouting and monitoring players but i agree about him, he's great either way.

you've just belittled everything that's being made by the other GM's and made excuses for RC (or Pop that's the real GM), that's just personal bias

[GreekSpursfan]

Some Spurs fans really think fadeaway 2s will get it done.

They want to stay optimistic and dont want to see their team stink for entire seasons. I agree with you but we have to see it from their prespective too. Big 3 are no more, its not easy to get over that, you try to hold on to something and thats what Pop is doing here but he has to except the facts too.

[GreekSpursfan]

you've just belittled everything that's being made by the other GM's and made excuses for RC (or Pop that's the real GM), that's just personal bias

Bellittle what, you think D.Russell and Levert and Spencer Dinwiddie are gonna break the NBA? I said he did a good job but the hard part is now. You think Pop's opinion isn't above RC's? I didnt make any excuses for Pop to the contrary, i said he still thinks he can do some things even though deep down he knows nothing will come out of this. You think Pop doesn't know? He's trying to build something for his successor but there is nothing to build around here, thats on him.

[sasaint]

RC is handcuffed by Pop because he wants to be in the playoffs, wants to compete, even if he knows that this is leading nowhere. RC is fine as a GM. Sean Marks hasn't proven nothing yet, D.Russell isn't good enough imo, Levert the same, can't build a championship team around those guys, they are complementary pieces but thats about it. S. Marks has done a very good job thus far but that was the easy part, now it gets a lot harder, now he will have more pressure, he's in the biggest market of the NBA, if no free agents go there he blew it imo. 7,8 seed in the East especially this year means nothing to me., first round exist via a sweep probably. Jerry West is on another lvl BUT and i had to use capitals there, he's in LA with a billionaire supporting him who's probably gave him all the people he needs and more as far as scouting and monitoring players but i agree about him, he's great either way.

No way to evaluate RC separate from Pop.

If Sean Marks gets Brooklyn into the playoffs THIS season, even if they get swept, that is a huge accomplishment, bringing this team from the depths of the abyss into the playoffs. Easy part? Smh.

[GreekSpursfan]

No way to evaluate RC separate from Pop.

If Sean Marks gets Brooklyn into the playoffs THIS season, even if they get swept, that is a huge accomplishment, bringing this team from the depths of the abyss into the playoffs. Easy part? Smh.

Imo it's an easy job for a good GM. The best thing he did was Atkinson(top 5 in league imo). A great GM gets you ready for a championship and the Nets are very far away from that, million miles. People here talk like he's a great GM. I have to disagree with that.

[Clipper Nation]

Bellittle what, you think D.Russell and Levert and Spencer Dinwiddie are gonna break the NBA? I said he did a good job but the hard part is now.

Couldn't disagree more. The hard part was working around the loss of all those lottery picks that Billy King gifted away. That was the worst situation any team had ever been in since the Stepien Cavs.