it would have taken more than a single SRP for Collins. it took 1 second rounder as the Jazz only took on smaller expiring deals. if we sent keldon we'd have to have sent more capital to account for them owing him 17.5 mil in 26-27
If you understand that their objective is to strip mine their roster, albeit a year too late, they did well, too. They tried and failed to play the double game of tanking, but maintaining talent on their roster, and lost, fined for holding out players.
This trade is kind of wild from a value perspective, maybe someone can help me understand.
On one hand... no one wanted Collins and he's only worth the zombie joke factory of Kevin Love, Kyle Anderson and a SRP...
On the other hand... he's also worth Norman Powell.
Therefor... Normal Powell is also only worth Love, Anderson and an SRP?
Basically, I would have thought Powell would be worth more on the open market and certainly worth more to LAC. He was quite good last year, but he is 32, so I guess that's the age discount coming into play. Seems like his style of play would indicate that he has plenty of quality years left, but maybe not?
I don't know what the contract extension situations look like for Collins or Powell, but I'd bet that had a lot to do with the perceived value of each. I understand Utah is fully embracing the tank --- like it wasn't enough for them to have the worst record in the league last year -- but I guess now they are clearing the decks for the young guys to get minutes. Markannan makes less and less sense on that team.
this is why im saying the jazz got the end of the stick and miami got the big win here
miami got a legit player for corpses. clippers swapped a legit player for a legit player at a different position of need. jazz took 2 corpses for a legit, albiet overpaid for a year, player
reason powell has less value than one may think he is 32 and wanting a big contract
Powell is an expiring as well. Maybe they both have high salary demands on their new deals (I kind of doubt they'll get it though).
Seems like Powell could have yielded a better return for a team looking to clear long term cap space... but I guess not!
Yeah... feels like Powell (and to a lesser extent Collins) would have been worth more as trade deadline playoff rentals... but I guess LAC can't afford to wait for the trade deadline since they want to compete. Miami definitely the big winner here.
As long as Steph is a free agent at that point that shouldn't be anything that would bother the owners or players union. It's the prospect of a NBA player breaking their contract to go to a different league, whether it's in Europe, Saudi Arabia, or anywhere else, and then expecting to be able to come back later on, that would cause problems. I can easily see HoF blacklisting being part of that.
A conclusion of this offseason is that undersized scoring SG have little to no value even when they are good players.
Sexton, Clarkson, Simons, Powell, Poole, Monk... all have very little trade value.
And LOL to Ainge with his crazy asking prices meeting reality.
Walker Kessler will be the next one tbh
Would be fitting for CP3 to finish his career with the Clips. Could be back in LA with his fam too. He wouldn't start though, which appears to mean more to him than playing on a good team.
BeMar BeRozen.
I appreciate CP3 for giving his all to the Spurs this last season, but if this happens the Clippers will be the easiest non-Lakers team to hate in a while.
If Beal chooses the money/location of the Clippers over the superior role/weaker conference of the Bucks, I wonder what happens with Paul. Hard to believe he wants to spend his supposed final season as a probable 6th man (unless they go micro ball with Green-Booker-Brooks at 2-4) on a probable non play-in team.
Those complaining about the Spurs not acquiring Collins, there's no reason as to why the Jazz would have preferred to pay Barnes $5.7M (setting aside this making no sense from the Spurs perspective) more than Anderson/Love in '25-'26 or Johnson $17.5M in '26-'27.
For those who just like some fun offseason drama... there is speculation circling that the Jazz may be an offer-sheet team for Quintin Grimes. The Sixers are currently $19MM (and change) below the second apron. The idea is that the Jazz would make a few simple moves to open up the cap space to extend an offer sheet in excess of that, putting Philly in quite the difficult position.
I hope it happens, just for the LOLs, but seems counter productive to good relationship building, and then there is the question of whether Grimes would even sign an offer sheet with UTA.
Something to watch.
CP3 is likely having problems because of his crazy demand of wanting to start. Many teams would love him as a backup.
So do you think the Bucks should have just been able to kick Dame to the curb and not pay him?
lol bro, you clearly didn't think this comment all the way through before posting it. Imagine a player just being able to bail on a team whenever he feels like it just to go play to another team. It doesn't matter if that team is from another league and another country, it s a franchise up.
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Teams Bradley Beal could consider joining if he is bought out by the Suns include the Clippers, Warriors, Lakers and Bucks, a source tells FredKatz
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The Suns and Beal are increasingly optimistic that the two sides will agree to terms on a buyout, league sources say.
The goal for the Suns is to negotiate a buyout, waive him and then stretch his remaining salary over five years, which would reduce his annual cap hit on their books. The move would not only get Phoenix out of the second apron, but also out of the luxury tax altogether.
The latest: https://nytimes.com/athletic/6478558...urce=twitterhq
Clearly players should not simply be able to bail on their contracts because they want to play for another team... but it's also not too far outside the realm of imagination to consider why a foreigner (who I think is a Canadian citizen now?) might want to bail from the US
If you don't want to work for someone, you don't sign a contract with that someone, tbh.
Clippers? They lost Powell, who was arguably an all-star last season. How the did Miami get Powell by just giving up Kyle and Love?
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Breaking: Orlando Magic star Paolo Banchero has agreed to a five-year maximum rookie contract extension that could reach $287 million, Mike Miller of LIFT Sports Management tells ESPN. Deal includes a player option; the first for a rookie max since 2021 (Luka Doncic, Trae Young).
You wouldn't listen, tbh.
In all seriousness now, I don't see Collins as a "twin towers" player, tbh. He was a modern 4, that could stretch the floor on offense and handle oppossing 4's in the perimeter on defense.
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