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    In 6 months time he may very well be available on the free agency market. Giving up a pick is to secure his bird rights, which I don't think the Spurs need. Not sure what the cap situation is.
    Giving up a pick is to shed salary and get a free short term look without a long-term commitment.

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    Wemby has openly criticized players who don’t work hard. There’s 0 chance we trade for Zion.

    Ingram at a bargain price is much more interesting. But I’m talking 75% off sale bargain. Would be a last minute trade if no one else wanted him.
    Porn Chub just got suspended for being late to the team plane. Wemby and Zion would be David and Rodman 2.0. I’ll pass.

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    In 6 months time he may very well be available on the free agency market. Giving up a pick is to secure his bird rights, which I don't think the Spurs need. Not sure what the cap situation is.
    It’s not about Ingram’s contract but unloading Keldon/Collins money. That opens up 37M in space for SA. Getting his rights is just a happy side effect (one in which I dont even really want them to use since I dont love Ingram).

    But this team needs a major overhaul in talent and that 37M can go a long way.

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    ^ If Spurs were interested in going after Ingram as a FA, I don't think they would have hurt their cap space by picking Branham and Wesley option.

    Spurs have lowered their 2025 cap space by $7M by picking team options of these 2 marginal players. To me, it's a sign they have zero interest in going after players like Ingram or Naz Reid.

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    ^ If Spurs were interested in going after Ingram as a FA, I don't think they would have hurt their cap space by picking Branham and Wesley option.

    Spurs have lowered their 2025 cap space by $7M by picking team options of these 2 marginal players. To me, it's a sign they have zero interest in going after players like Ingram or Naz Reid.
    Possibly true but those deals are so small they can likely burn their excess 2nd picks and dump them if they need the space and it gave them one more look to see if any leap happened.

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    ^ If Spurs were interested in going after Ingram as a FA, I don't think they would have hurt their cap space by picking Branham and Wesley option.

    Spurs have lowered their 2025 cap space by $7M by picking team options of these 2 marginal players. To me, it's a sign they have zero interest in going after players like Ingram or Naz Reid.
    Can we "easily" cut Brahman and Wesley?

    If not why the extensions??

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    Can we "easily" cut Brahman and Wesley?

    If not why the extensions??
    Yeah, we can waive them. It will create some dead money, but the Spurs have can, and have, dealt with that in the past and it won't be all that significant.

    It's hard to understand the point of picking up their options, especially if they weren't going to get any minutes this year. I'm not complaining about the lack of Branhim minutes, but it's just inconsistent. Maybe this is where Mitch has a bigger impact that we think, and Pop would be playing Bran heavily if he were still on the sidelines. Or maybe they are truly caught off guard by Bran's lack of development? Who knows.

    Wesley on the other hand, confuses me. He's actually shown some progress and played okay in his chances this year. At least enough to where you'd think you'd give him some minutes to continue developing considering you picked up that option.

    If the Spurs just view them as end of bench bodies that you need anyway... that doesn't make a whole lot of sense either, since you can get vets on minimums for cheaper.

    There are tons of plausible explanations for why they picked up the options, but then they are all belied but their subsequent actions. It's weird.

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    Branham and Wesley both have some NBA skills. They haven't put it together and may never and probably not for the Spurs. It's not a big mystery that continuing to develop them was a possibility that doesn't seem to have worked out. But saying it's confusing or whatever doesn't make sense. If Branham got confidence and a killer instinct, he could have become a bucket getter. If Wesley developed any viable offense or a better halfcourt defender, that was his route forward.

    Mitch doesn't see fit to give them minutes and is instead riding the current rotation apparently for a playoff spot (although we're now losing). Collins is also out of the rotation. It's not a thing to freak out over. None of those players will be around at the end of next year and may be gone this summer.

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    Branham and Wesley both have some NBA skills. They haven't put it together and may never and probably not for the Spurs. It's not a big mystery that continuing to develop them was a possibility that doesn't seem to have worked out. But saying it's confusing or whatever doesn't make sense. If Branham got confidence and a killer instinct, he could have become a bucket getter. If Wesley developed any viable offense or a better halfcourt defender, that was his route forward.

    Mitch doesn't see fit to give them minutes and is instead riding the current rotation apparently for a playoff spot (although we're now losing). Collins is also out of the rotation. It's not a thing to freak out over. None of those players will be around at the end of next year and may be gone this summer.
    Not about freaking out but it does eat up 8M in cap space so there’s an impact to consider. But I think SA could salary dump them pretty easily

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    Not about freaking out but it does eat up 8M in cap space so there’s an impact to consider. But I think SA could salary dump them pretty easily
    They could, probably, but teams don't really have cap room anymore and having end of the bench guys eating up a few million isn't a big deal. If we were trying to clear cap space for a big move, that would be one thing. My guess is they're either bricked together with Collins or another more expensive guy to get a piece or they just stick around another year. If they pop somehow then that's great. If not, they're just third stringers. You have to pay third stringers anyway.

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    Zion stands to lose his contract if he doesn't act even basically right. The guy won't do it. Zion won't even play basketball FOR A LOT OF MONEY.

    And y'all want to trade for him.
    Part of the risk reward profile that intrigues some.

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    I'm not a Zollins hater and actually could live with him going forward, but what about Pöltl? Is the idea of bringing him back dead? Would be the perfect Wemby backup...probably ok with coming of the bench...keeping our defense alive...maybe sharing some few minutes with Wemby.

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    I'm not a Zollins hater and actually could live with him going forward, but what about Pöltl? Is the idea of bringing him back dead? Would be the perfect Wemby backup...probably ok with coming of the bench...keeping our defense alive...maybe sharing some few minutes with Wemby.
    Raps reportedly want 2 FRPs.

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    ^ If Spurs were interested in going after Ingram as a FA, I don't think they would have hurt their cap space by picking Branham and Wesley option.

    Spurs have lowered their 2025 cap space by $7M by picking team options of these 2 marginal players. To me, it's a sign they have zero interest in going after players like Ingram or Naz Reid.
    To this points it’s kinda been a disappointing crop of trade targets over the last two years, generally. The older players are second tier (Jimbo), and the younger unhappy guys are fringe/1 time all star types (Ingram, Reid, arguably Fox).

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    A smaller trade that would help this season and this summer-
    Was- Keldon, Collins, Malaki, 5 2nds and a protected 1st
    Spurs- Valanciunas, Brogdon, Davis

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    Keldon/Collins is the new Bonner/Blair

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    I don’t understand why people think the Spurs out of all franchises would want to trade for Zion. You think Pop would want his lazy ass on this team?

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    I'm not a Zollins hater and actually could live with him going forward, but what about Pöltl? Is the idea of bringing him back dead? Would be the perfect Wemby backup...probably ok with coming of the bench...keeping our defense alive...maybe sharing some few minutes with Wemby.
    he has a career season and earns 20 million per year. Makes no sense, you need someone cheaper

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    They're gonna get stuck on the treadmill if they keep this up. They need take swings. And to trade that 2031 pick just out of respect for Wemby, he doesn't give a single fk about 2031.

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    They want to keep 2031 to be able to pivot for the 2nd part of Wemby‘s career. The problem is they still don’t have anything close to the right supporting cast for the 1st part

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    Is Zach Lowe back?? I’ve missed that guy.

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    They're gonna get stuck on the treadmill if they keep this up. They need take swings. And to trade that 2031 pick just out of respect for Wemby, he doesn't give a single fk about 2031.
    Cool. Who, that’s available, are they swinging for exactly?

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    They're gonna get stuck on the treadmill if they keep this up. They need take swings. And to trade that 2031 pick just out of respect for Wemby, he doesn't give a single fk about 2031.
    Did OKC or Orlando get stuck on the treadmill? Because they both had play in seasons on their way up.

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