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    Things are moving. I would guess the SAC-CHI trade is all but done at this point, although it sounds like Demar is going to Sacramento to talk first?

    Question:

    Who's the preference, if there's a choice? Huerter or Barnes? Both have strengths.
    I want Barnes because we need a floor spacer at PF if Castle is to start together with CP3 and Devin.

    Huerter can't play PF.

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    5D chess by the front office. Farewell Nugget Killer.

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    So in theory if we get Barnes, what do you guys thinks? He starts right?

    CP3/Vessel/Barnes/Sochan/Wemby

    with Keldon/Castle/Tre/Champ/Collins off the bench?

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    Picks hopefully
    Yeah, God forbid the Spurs get anything that helps the team.

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    So in theory if we get Barnes, what do you guys thinks? He starts right?

    CP3/Vessel/Barnes/Sochan/Wemby

    with Keldon/Castle/Tre/Champ/Collins off the bench?
    Jeremy has to be benched until he becomes a positive on offense.

    CP3/Vessel/Castle/Barnes/Wemby

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    Jeremy has to be benched until he becomes a positive on offense.

    CP3/Vessel/Castle/Barnes/Wemby
    Wow, assuming Castle is plus offensively over Jeremy seems like a HUGE assumption!

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    Either Barnes or Huerter fits nicely into the starting 3 spot for the upcoming season tbh.

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    Will be interesting to see what they do with the available cap space. Graham was not going to see the floor with Paul, Jones and Castle on the squad, but he was a decent floor spacer.

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    It's a quite standard salary dump trade.

    Now, the big question is what Spurs will do with that extra cap space? Taking one of Barnes/Huerter or something else?

    Another question is how good is the second round pick Spurs traded away.

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    A non shooting Sochan isn't a legit starter on a good team, and Spurs shouldn't rush to pay him as such. Right now I'd say he's worth an Obi Toppin type deal, at around 4 years 60 million (adjust some for cap inflation), if he wanted more than that Spurs might be better off by just not extending him and either having another year of evidence before re-signing him or simply letting him find his market value in restricted free agency.
    A starter on a good team would make way more than that. The MLE in five years will be around $86M/4. And equivalent deal to Toppin's in two years would be $72M/4 or $94M/5. It's going to be a hard sell for the Spurs to start Sochan for three or four years straight and then try to tell him they don't see him as a starter. Like if it were so easy to replace him, why didn't they replace him in two or three years of Victor's career? Were they trying to tank?

    But let's keep things straight: The starter condition is baked into the scenario you're responding to, as is the idea of Sochan signing an extension rather than going to market. Both of those factors favor Jeremy's reps in negotiations and may not end up being the reality. The Spurs might have cause to bench Sochan this year (if not trade him), and I don't think they'd be out of bounds to want to wait on him before offering a contract. That's both because of his performance and because the Spurs may well have a cap window that summer. However, if the Spurs are coming to Sochan with an extension offer after starting him this year, I don't think the more pessimistic estimates given here make sense.

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    Wow, assuming Castle is plus offensively over Jeremy seems like a HUGE assumption!
    He's definitely a better playmaker and his shoot looks like an NBA player's shot.
    Since Jeremy is also a poor finisher at the rim, I don't think Castle can be worse.

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    Jeremy has to be benched until he becomes a positive on offense.

    CP3/Vessel/Castle/Barnes/Wemby
    Yes, because opposing teams will be happy to bench their best player until Jeremy checks in.

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    So in theory if we get Barnes, what do you guys thinks? He starts right?

    CP3/Vessel/Barnes/Sochan/Wemby

    with Keldon/Castle/Tre/Champ/Collins off the bench?
    The 4th overall starts from day 1. The very least he guards the POA. Barnes is a good vet presence in the 2nd squad, along with Keldon, Tre and Osman.

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    Is the Barnes/Huerter thing assuming we're the third team in the DeRozan Sacto deal? Are there other players that fit the "absorb into space" profile for team navigating the aprons?

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    Yes, because opposing teams will be happy to bench their best player until Jeremy checks in.
    His defense is also overrated.
    He can guard wings with similar size, but he can't guard star playmakers or bigger players.

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    Getting to $28.9 mil would allow SA to absorb one of Harrison Barnes or Kevin Huerter into cap space, then have enough to sign Chris Paul.
    Barnes has a 10% trade kicker that should take his number to 19.8 this year, probably not enough room then for Paul unless they do something else

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    Good iob sa! Bring in some vets,keep your assets and lets see how the season goes

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    In his two years there, Utah is at .46 with Lauri and .32 without him.
    He impacts winning more than Markkanen ever will.
    I assume you mean Ingram in that second line?

    "Lauri has never made a team better" is a lazy line, not based in any kind of reality. Those who use it are (mostly) being purposely obtuse.

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    I don't think Barnes can reliably play the 3 anymore

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    I lean Huerter rather than Barnes, despite not being a starting fit. Huerter is still only 25 while Barnes seems to be starting a decline. Barnes fills a starting role, however.

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    Whoever shoots better is who i want

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    His defense is also overrated.
    He can guard wings with similar size, but he can't guard star playmakers or bigger players.
    Except that's all he has done in the league.

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    Biggest W of this upcoming trade is making sure Derozan doesn't come back to SA tbh

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    What did we get back from CHA? A fake second?

    Certainly the Spurs have some kind of plans, otherwise it doesn't make sense to give up an SRP just to save $2.8MM by dumping Graham. The only explanation would be that we are cheap asses... oh wait, I figured it out.

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