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    Does anyone really think KD would want to come here to end his career? I highly doubt it.
    But but he went to UT for 5 months that one time.

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    I still think OKC would out bid us plus KD just doesn't fit the timeline. I am very much a supporter of consolidating picks for a proven star but not KD. Just a tad too old.
    Ok, I'll play. What do you think OKC would realistically offer to outbid us?

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    Ok, I'll play. What do you think OKC would realistically offer to outbid us?
    Harenstein and Dort for matching salaries with Chet moving to C plus picks.

    Hartenstein and Dort would slot in as the Spurs best two way players besides Wemby so I dont want to hear about how they have little to no trade value.

    Still though looking at OKC's roster construction not sure if KD is worth blowing it up. Makes them weaker at C in a conference with Joker/Wemby/AD plus they dont have any bad contracts to include in the deal unlike the Spurs. That's a stacked cost controlled roster.

    Even so the Warriors (Kuminga/picks), Lakers (Reaves/picks), Timberwolves (Randle and Dilly plus picks), Nuggets (MPJ/picks) all make way more sense than the Spurs.

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    Harenstein and Dort for matching salaries with Chet moving to C plus picks.

    Hartenstein and Dort would slot in as the Spurs best two way players besides Wemby so I dont want to hear about how they have little to no trade value.

    Still though looking at OKC's roster construction not sure if KD is worth blowing it up. Makes them weaker at C in a conference with Joker/Wemby/AD plus they dont have any bad contracts to include in the deal unlike the Spurs. That's a stacked cost controlled roster.

    Even so the Warriors (Kuminga/picks), Lakers (Reaves/picks), Timberwolves (Randle and Dilly plus picks), Nuggets (MPJ/picks) all make way more sense than the Spurs.
    That doesn’t work n the playoffs. Dallas ng bullied him.

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    That doesn’t work n the playoffs. Dallas ng bullied him.
    I agree but even so other win now teams make more sense. We're not getting KD for a poo poo platter with two first round picks on top. Other teams can easily outbid that with proven talent like Randle or MPJ.

    KD is making 51M so the Suns are going to take back massive salaries so the inclusion of someone like Randle or MPJ make sense even if they make a lot of money.

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    I'm prepared to not even make the play-in, tbh. The Suns may be imploding, but when it comes down to it, they'll know how to win the games to get them into the top-10, whereas the Spurs will be trotting Sochan out to the 3pt line with the game on the line.

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    My question would be why is Richards even available?
    He averaged 11/10 as a starter.
    Williams is back, but he's too injury prone to be relied on.
    Spurs should definitely look into it if he's available.
    Give them back their fake FRP and one of Sidy/Wesley/Branham.
    Excellent trade proposal, but I'd go a little bit further by giving them back their almost useless (to us) FRP, Wesley & Branham for salary matching purposes, and Gleague Sidy to buddy up with Tidjane Salaun . Its basically addition by subtraction for us and the hornets get to start over again like they do every few years. All kidding aside, Richards should be a spurs target and we have some assets to trade for him. Do it BWright.

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    Harenstein and Dort for matching salaries with Chet moving to C plus picks.

    Hartenstein and Dort would slot in as the Spurs best two way players besides Wemby so I dont want to hear about how they have little to no trade value.

    Still though looking at OKC's roster construction not sure if KD is worth blowing it up. Makes them weaker at C in a conference with Joker/Wemby/AD plus they dont have any bad contracts to include in the deal unlike the Spurs. That's a stacked cost controlled roster.

    Even so the Warriors (Kuminga/picks), Lakers (Reaves/picks), Timberwolves (Randle and Dilly plus picks), Nuggets (MPJ/picks) all make way more sense than the Spurs.
    I don't think the Thunder do that deal. As ex pointed out, they'd get killed in the playoffs. I also don't think the Laker package is as good as ours, nor the Minnesota package (they don't have many picks left). The Warriors though, I'll grant that they can make a very compelling offer and it would come down to how much they value Kuminga.

    In the end, it's really going to come down to what KD wants. Nobody is trading real assets for him if he makes it clear that he doesn't want to go there. We just have to hope he sees the value of playing with Wemby. If he does, the cost to get him won't be as high as it should be.

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    Spurs should go after Bol Bol... Imo..

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    Do we have enough picks to get Lauri + Fox this summer?

    Or Fox and KD before the deadline?
    Last edited by mo7888; 01-13-2025 at 09:42 PM.

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    Spurs should go after Bol Bol... Imo..
    I've considered this move myself. Shaq would be pushing for Bol Bol to start. It sounds like a mad professor, Pop kinda move.

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    This whole thread is where bad ideas go to die.

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    Do we have enough picks to get Lauri + Fox this summer?

    Or Fox and KD before the deadline?
    Yes... but I think this would be the definition of "blowing our load". I personally would not want to dip to under 6 picks over the next 7 years. We currently are sitting on 11, if you (rightfully) do not count the CHA pick and do count the CHI pick (which I think is the right thing to do for now)

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    Bol Bol is trash. There's a reason he's been nothing but a fringe bench player his entire career

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    Yes... but I think this would be the definition of "blowing our load". I personally would not want to dip to under 6 picks over the next 7 years. We currently are sitting on 11, if you (rightfully) do not count the CHA pick and do count the CHI pick (which I think is the right thing to do for now)
    If that's the case, I'd probably want a couple of cheap shooters for this season and hope that Phx blows it up or that we can pry Lauri this summer.

    Im defining cheap shooter as something like:

    Cha- Branham + salary ballast + their pick back + another 2nd
    Spurs- Curry and NSJ

    That gives us a seasoned shooter and a young shooter (43% from 3)

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    Would love to swap Keldon’s money for a better 3&D player.

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    Would love to swap Keldon’s money for a better 3&D player.
    Anyone in mind?

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    It’s tough and it may not happen directly in a player for player trade. May be something like someone liking Keldon and SA getting an expiring back and then re-using that money they are paying him on a free agent that fits that mold better.

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    It’s seems pretty clear that he’s hit his ceiling and it seems to be a mental thing. He probably doesn’t have much value in a straight up trade, but maybe he has value as a trade sweetener. I would hope that having Wemby would make SA a more attractive free agent spot, but it’s pretty quiet so far.

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    Aaron Nesmith is the guy I want... but IND is too smart to up their team with Keldon. mo7888 had a great idea where if IND goes for Cam Johnson, we get involved and pluck IND's talent and send our tank commanders and draft compensation to BKN

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    I like Nesmith, but I don’t think Indiana going to let him go. If the Spurs are going to get rid of Keldon, it will probably have to be a situation where a good player is having a slump year because they don’t like the team they’re on or some personal reason and then the Spurs will have to gamble. Keldon doesn’t have a lot of value at this point.

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    Spurs' primary goal is to be a contender for Wembanyama's best years. I would say Spurs are aiming to fight for the le every single year between 2027 and 2035. Spurs best assets (first round draft picks, 2026 cap space, Castle, Sochan, Vassell...) will be used to reach that goal. That's why I don't see at all Spurs using first round draft picks to get a role player like Cam Johnson or a 35 years old all star like Butler or KD. These players just won't be able to help enough Spurs to reach their main target.

    What I don't know is how Spurs FO will approach this year's team. Is making the play-in a secondary goal for them?
    If it is, Spurs could make little trades to improve the team using second round picks.
    If it isn't, they will do nothing. They might view getting a better draft pick as a fine comepensation for the loss of experience the team will get by missing the play-in.

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    Does anyone really think KD would want to come here to end his career? I highly doubt it.
    You think he'd rather be stuck with Beal than playing next to Wemby?

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    Spurs' primary goal is to be a contender for Wembanyama's best years. I would say Spurs are aiming to fight for the le every single year between 2027 and 2035. Spurs best assets (first round draft picks, 2026 cap space, Castle, Sochan, Vassell...) will be used to reach that goal. That's why I don't see at all Spurs using first round draft picks to get a role player like Cam Johnson or a 35 years old all star like Butler or KD. These players just won't be able to help enough Spurs to reach their main target.

    What I don't know is how Spurs FO will approach this year's team. Is making the play-in a secondary goal for them?
    If it is, Spurs could make little trades to improve the team using second round picks.
    If it isn't, they will do nothing. They might view getting a better draft pick as a fine comepensation for the loss of experience the team will get by missing the play-in.
    You cant just go from a non-playoff team to a contender overnight unless you acquire Luka/Giannis/Jokic. It has to be some kind of play-in to first/2nd rounders to WCF/real contender status. Kind of like how Rockets, OKC, Minnesota, Dallas have been building in recent years.

    If they don't make the play-in this season, they have only 2 more years to be on time with your proposed timeline.

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    You cant just go from a non-playoff team to a contender overnight unless you acquire Luka/Giannis/Jokic. It has to be some kind of play-in to first/2nd rounders to WCF/real contender status. Kind of like how Rockets, OKC, Minnesota, Dallas have been building in recent years.

    If they don't make the play-in this season, they have only 2 more years to be on time with your proposed timeline.
    Yeah, this is roughly my timetable for the Spurs, which would hopefully mean we have done a good job surrounding Wemby with talent and he's stayed healthy in the process.

    2025: barely miss or lose in the Play-in (0-2 or 0-1)
    2026: First round loss as 6th-7th-8th seed (1-4 or 0-4)
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    Second round loss as 4th-5th seed (3-4 or 2-4)
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    : Conference Finals loss or Finals
    2029: The start of 'Championship or Bust' Era

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