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    .........lamarcus aldrige helped a texas player last season who was a worse 3 point shooter than sochan improve his 3 point shooting significantly in one offseason by using the jumping method technique spurs homer mentioned...........
    Reason I say I'd hesitate to use that method is that in addition to just focusing on consistent release without a hitch is that by adding the jump (at least at first) youre adding a timing component that just complicates the effort to fix a hitch and release issue first and foremost.

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    Reason I say I'd hesitate to use that method is that in addition to just focusing on consistent release without a hitch is that by adding the jump (at least at first) youre adding a timing component that just complicates the effort to fix a hitch and release issue first and foremost.
    Focusing on the position of your feet/the jump takes away some overthinking on the shot for some ppl

    It helped me a lot, basically once in the air you have no choice but act and at the last moment u focus on the touch

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    So, there is literally only one Chip Engelland?

    Surely there is someone we can get to assist with shot development. And obvs this isn't in the context of NBA ball, but he should be carrying over something his NBA coaches should have shown him. WTF is this? Cmon Patfo. Put an actual coaching organism together, for Pete's sake.

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    i think he's in the middle of a full breakout, as a player, but that shot geez.. come on J, get it fixed.

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    In 17h Sochan plays with Poland against Bahamas with Buddy Hield or Ayton. Poland has little offensive skill to match Bahamas, so we expect Sochan to contribute a lot on both end.
    I see Valdez Edgecombe Jr is playing for the Bahamas. Top 5-10 prospect for the 2025 for now. Poured in 20pts against Slovenia. Lol Luka has an uphill battle to qualify for Paris. Yikes of a summer for Luka so far.

    D Saric with a triple double. Wonder if that helps his UFA status

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    D Saric with a triple double. Wonder if that helps his UFA status
    is Saric an option? I mean, yes, the player type Saric represents might help. he played for 2.7 million last season. if he didn't ask for significantly more money, should the Spurs call him?

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    Really though it looks like he's concentrating on his elbow there, getting the shot rebuilt. The hitch it worrying, but I doubt that's what is going on here. Trying to take the sideways spin out of the shot.

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    is Saric an option? I mean, yes, the player type Saric represents might help. he played for 2.7 million last season. if he didn't ask for significantly more money, should the Spurs call him?
    I was going to say, could see Pop liking the idea of this shooting big. I wouldn't expect much but I guess he wasn't completely terrible last season with GSW. As a deep bench bigs-depth it might be a consolation prize to striking out on Lauri. Plus Saric has chemistry with CP3.

    Could see SA being a resurgence for him and he kinda reminds me of a very poor mans Spurs era Bobo with the nifty passes and backing down defenders in the post but even more sluggish and very one dimensional non cerebral play whereas Bobo was brilliant with intangibles.

    I see a lot of overlap with Mamu and we already have one theoretical 6'10 shooter in Zollins and then of course Saric isn't very good but that Paris qualifying game tape from this week looks solid (19pts 10reb 10ast).




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    is Saric an option? I mean, yes, the player type Saric represents might help. he played for 2.7 million last season. if he didn't ask for significantly more money, should the Spurs call him?
    Nah poor defense. Him plus Branhams gonna be a disaster

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    What a fugly shot. He’s got to be trolling to tank his trade value.

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    How do we watch the game today? It starts in about 40 minutes.

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    How do we watch the game today? It starts in about 40 minutes.
    Is this it?:


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    How do we watch the game today? It starts in about 40 minutes.
    NBA APP

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    Reason I say I'd hesitate to use that method is that in addition to just focusing on consistent release without a hitch is that by adding the jump (at least at first) youre adding a timing component that just complicates the effort to fix a hitch and release issue first and foremost.
    u were right i looked up the details........lamarcus aldridge had the player do it the way u stated without the jumping..........

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    So, there is literally only one Chip Engelland?

    Surely there is someone we can get to assist with shot development. And obvs this isn't in the context of NBA ball, but he should be carrying over something his NBA coaches should have shown him. WTF is this? Cmon Patfo. Put an actual coaching organism together, for Pete's sake.
    lethal shooter is available.........he is the reason nuggets players shot well in championship season.......

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    So, there is literally only one Chip Engelland?

    Surely there is someone we can get to assist with shot development. And obvs this isn't in the context of NBA ball, but he should be carrying over something his NBA coaches should have shown him. WTF is this? Cmon Patfo. Put an actual coaching organism together, for Pete's sake.
    There were a lot of assistants over the decades, but only Tex Winter came to work with Phil Jackson, and changed the landscape of the league, so yeah, maybe there is only one Chip Engelland.

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    Reason I say I'd hesitate to use that method is that in addition to just focusing on consistent release without a hitch is that by adding the jump (at least at first) youre adding a timing component that just complicates the effort to fix a hitch and release issue first and foremost.
    It is called a "jump shot."

    You start from right under the basket on the right side of the rim...
    jump as high as you can and at the absolute height of your jump you release the ball using only your wrist - not your arm/elbow/body/
    just flick your wrist.

    Do this a million times and then move back one foot and repeat.
    Then go to the left side of rim and use your left hand...rinse/repeat.

    THIS is what you do on the playground when you are 5 years old. Why there are NBA players like Sochan and Castle who apparently never did this - is absolutely baffling to me.

    Only when you can properly shoot a 1 foot jump shot and automatically do this in your sleep without missing - do you actually move farther from the basket.

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    Dude is being trained by a shot put coach. Wouldn't put it past the Spurs development team.

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    It is called a "jump shot."

    You start from right under the basket on the right side of the rim...
    jump as high as you can and at the absolute height of your jump you release the ball using only your wrist - not your arm/elbow/body/
    just flick your wrist.

    Do this a million times and then move back one foot and repeat.
    Then go to the left side of rim and use your left hand...rinse/repeat.

    THIS is what you do on the playground when you are 5 years old. Why there are NBA players like Sochan and Castle who apparently never did this - is absolutely baffling to me.

    Only when you can properly shoot a 1 foot jump shot and automatically do this in your sleep without missing - do you actually move farther from the basket.
    I get your idea, but no one does that at 5 years, or any age, on the playground.

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    I get your idea, but no one does that at 5 years, or any age, on the playground.
    That is exactly what i did, all my friends did, all my teammates did, everyone on the playground or in their backyard did.

    Im old as poop though - so that was another era.

    I annoyed the out of my dad who worked nights and had to learn to sleep during the day with a basketball bouncing a billion times and the basket making that clanking noise a billion times lol...

    Then we also did the same thing with layups...right side...a billion times...
    left side/left hand a billion times...

    Old school basketball drills and i still sucked in hs lol

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    I have it. Nothing shows up. Found a pirate feed.

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    I get your idea, but no one does that at 5 years, or any age, on the playground.
    That's exactly how I got good at shooting.

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    It is called a "jump shot."

    You start from right under the basket on the right side of the rim...
    jump as high as you can and at the absolute height of your jump you release the ball using only your wrist - not your arm/elbow/body/
    just flick your wrist.

    Do this a million times and then move back one foot and repeat.
    Then go to the left side of rim and use your left hand...rinse/repeat.

    THIS is what you do on the playground when you are 5 years old. Why there are NBA players like Sochan and Castle who apparently never did this - is absolutely baffling to me.

    Only when you can properly shoot a 1 foot jump shot and automatically do this in your sleep without missing - do you actually move farther from the basket.
    Two problems with this method.

    1. Jumping like that adds fatigue into the equation thereby limiting repeatability and lessening the amount of reps.

    2. In Sochan's case, he has a hitch and release problem. Not a timing problem. He's got to correct his hitch and release problem first.

    Easiest way to do that is to do repi ions of bending his knees and seamlessly rising and releasing his shot in a fluid motion over and over again until muscle memory takes over. You can't do that jumping up and down like a kangaroo while also working on your release. It goes against physical training in so many ways by engaging multiple separate muscle groups that don't pertain to the shot aberation.

    Edit: BTW, the proof he doesn't need help with his jump shot is when he's in the paint and rises up to take a shot he doesn't hitch. Its his set shot that is problematic. Thus adding the jumps won't correct the flaw.

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    Obviously his brain is telling the ball to go in

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