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    You're full of .
    However that may be, no one need take my word for anything, there's sworn testimony from witnesses inside the White House.

    Trump and Mulvaney both admitted Trump pressured Ukraine to investigate Biden and Burisma directly to the WH press pool. The transcript they released backs it up too

    Must make you sick to have given your loyalty to such stupid criminals.

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    Damn, Qhris thinks Epstein is innocent of all those crimes he's been accused of but not tried for.

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    Too bad for DJT and slow-witted Chris, Vindman's story is roundly corroborated by other witnesses.

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    Damn, you guys just should burn a cross on the White House lawn.

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    Lol Paul Sperry

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    Lol Paul Sperry
    Thanks for chiming in. Now back to your cartoons on Disney+

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    Its good to know the holdover was an African American woman with ties to Obama.
    It all makes sense now, the blacks...
    How much more blatantly do theses Rs with hatred need to be fed?

    Chris with the usual stout insider knowledge.

    So the president’s staunchest defenders are in full panic mode throwing furniture around the house; all the Chyna has been tossed and shattered.

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    Damn, you guys just should burn a cross on the White House lawn.
    But what else can they do?

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    Damn it. All these State Department people being taught to work for the United States.

    Orange defense: working for the re election of Donald Trump is working for the United States.

    Its really this bad.
    This is what it’s come to.

    The impeachment hearings so far.

    ”But sir, the stated foreign policy for Ukraine was to help in the defense of Eastern Ukraine against Russia. It turns out this policy directly opposes the re election efforts of the president, you know, the money and the Biden investigation?”

    No, no, no... You do what’s best to re elect the president.

    ”We don’t exactly know what that is anymore? The new tactics coming in are not clear. The story keeps changing. So the president does not like Ukraine anymore because of the Biden corruption?”

    No. He likes Ukraine. He does not like Biden, he is a political threat. Corruption in Ukraine is the enemy. Biden is running the corruption.

    “We already knew Ukraine was corrupt, thus we are attempting with a method of corruption to stop corruption via strong arming the newly elected leader. So what’s the plan now?”

    Re elect the president. That’s your foreign policy.
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    Nunes making mother Russia fiercely proud!

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    3 of Tuesday's 4 impeachment hearing witnesses have first-hand knowledge of Trump's Ukraine call


    https://theweek.com/speedreads/87934...s-ukraine-call

    Will their stories continue to agree?

    will they bail, forget, not in the loop?

    conflict with each other and other incriminating witnesses?

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    Vindman: “if I testified in Russia against the president - I would lose my life”

    In the USA - the GOP & the cult would like this to be the way things are done in the USA!

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    3 of Tuesday's 4 impeachment hearing witnesses have first-hand knowledge of Trump's Ukraine call


    https://theweek.com/speedreads/87934...s-ukraine-call

    Will their stories continue to agree?

    will they bail, forget, not in the loop?

    conflict with each other and other incriminating witnesses?
    the story that's emerging is broadly but not seamlessly consistent. some of the witnesses seem to have fallen back on faulty recollection to protect either themselves or DJT. we'll see if more direct conflicts lead to more witnesses revising their testimony.

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    sidebar: deep dive on the history of bribery in Anglo-American law

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/bad-argu...commit-bribery




    tl;dr version -- offering a bribe has always been included in the definition.

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    Nunes on the search for....


    leaks & whistleblower info...


    instead of the truth or the bribery & extortion.


    same as in the russia “investigation”
    where the GOP worked tirelessly to advance russias agenda

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    sidebar: deep dive on the history of bribery in Anglo-American law

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/bad-argu...commit-bribery




    tl;dr version -- offering a bribe has always been included in the definition.
    Then entire US political class operates on deeply entrenched, immovable, "legalized" bribery by the oligarchy, which effectively disenfranchises voters.

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    The Bad Arguments That Trump Didn’t Commit Bribery

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/bad-arguments-trump-didnt-commit-bribery

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    Thanks for chiming in. Now back to your cartoons on Disney+
    Do you ever put the alt right Twitter down?

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    Lt Col Vindman was offered a position (defense ministry) in ukraine from a ukrainian...

    GOP clutching their pearls trying to insinuate impropriety...

    VIndman came home - WROTE an account of the offer... REPORTED it to his chain of command...
    and...

    REPORTED it to the FBI!


    Wow-

    why didn’t TRUMP TEAM TRAITORS - think of that?


    Not one of them reported anything to anyone when the RUSSIANS approached them?

    Why is the GOP not clutching their pearls over that and still calling the russian attack - a HOAX?

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    I posted that literally three posts up -- and you commented on it!


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    I posted that literally three posts up -- and you commented on it!

    The Great Boutons' posts are always GREATER, eat your jealous heart out

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    As a matter of policy, we *always* tell other countries not to get involved in our domestic politics. Trump not only actively invited them to, he demanded it in exchange for vital aid.
    https://twitter.com/AngrierWHStaff/s...04589833670663

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    I'm not wasting much time on this bull political dog n pony show.

    Serious Q:

    Have there been any sincerely non partisan questions asked / non partisan answers given by witnesses?

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