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    Definitely a now-or-later kind of situation. Spurs know exactly what they will get with Collins, for better or worse...a solid PF who still has some upside, but also a big price tag and some health concerns.

    No telling if they feel like they can get a comparable or better piece at #9...obviously that remains to be seen but also comes on a rookie contract.

    I'd say doing McD/Langford/9 for Collins/16 seems like a good deal on paper, especially if Spurs feel they can get similar value 7 spots later in the draft.

    Would definitely be more of a win-now move which begs the question...are the Spurs really going into win-now mode already? Or positioning for another rebuilding year?

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    No thanks
    Good player injury prone
    I think he is a Robin and we need Batman
    Also if he is so good why does Atlanta wish to part ways with him?



    Would he make the current Spurs better- absolutely
    Could he prevent the Spurs from getting a lot better? Possibly
    Makes sense for teams with an an established star- of course they won't have a pick

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    I rather trade #9 for OG. Even sign Ayton.

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    Of course his precious counting stats went down the past two seasons, that's a natural byproduct of the team having more talent. It doesn't render him a lesser player though. He's young and hasn't suffered a career altering injury.

    I'd pursue 3.5's (namely Anunoby) first, but most likely wait to see who's on the board before contemplating parting with 9. If I were going to do it though, I'd want 16 back in the exchange.

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    Like a lot of guys in this board, i'll not give the pick 9 for Collins. If i can do something around the pick 20 maybe.

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    who says we're drafting a pf
    Your right knowing Pop he probably going to draft another guard

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    He also missed 28 games this season, 19 games in 2021, half of the entire season in 2020, and 20 games in 2019. He’s definitely injury prone.
    Not seeing the same games played numbers you are.

    Game logs from basketball reference

    21-22: 28 games missed out of 82
    20-21: 9 games missed out of 72 game season
    19-20: 26 games missed out of 67 game season
    18-19: 21 games missed out of 82 game season

    And more about injuries:

    He's never had a season ending injury. He did not play at the of this regular season but he made it back for the playoffs

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    Here we go again….. lol

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    Not for #9 straight up, but Collins and #16 for #9 maybe.

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    Collins plus 16 for #9&20&25?
    You are a mad man

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    It also looks like 5 of his missed games this year were covid protocols

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    Not interested.
    Keldon had similar numbers last year but without missing a ton of games, at a fraction of the cost, and still on the upswing of his career.
    Collins has already had his best NBA season.

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    Not for #9 straight up, but Collins and #16 for #9 maybe.
    I'm still not a fan of that trade but, if they take McDermott back as well....I might look a little harder at it..

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    I'm still not a fan of that trade but, if they take McDermott back as well....I might look a little harder at it..
    Don't they have to in order to make salaries match?

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    Don't they have to in order to make salaries match?
    Not with our cap space...we've got enough room to get it done without sending Doug.

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    Keldon had similar numbers last year but without missing a ton of games, at a fraction of the cost, and still on the upswing of his career.
    Collins has already had his best NBA season.
    Plus no Divo bs

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    Plus no Divo bs

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    SpursTalk wouldn't trade #9 for John Collins but thinks Sacramento would take Keldon Johnson for #4. Never change

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    SpursTalk wouldn't trade #9 for John Collins but thinks Sacramento would take Keldon Johnson for #4. Never change
    don't forget the gem that was "5th best team in the west"

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    SpursTalk wouldn't trade #9 for John Collins but thinks Sacramento would take Keldon Johnson for #4. Never change
    You son of a , I'm in!

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    I would do the 9 and mcdermont for him and 16. Other details can be ironed out. This would allow KJ to play at this more natural 3 which should help the defense. He also is good at defense although I think his interior is better then wing defense.
    I was against us signing him last year for the max and still feel that way. That is why mcdermont would need to be included as it would reduce the amount we would be paying Collins.
    As some has alluded to this is more a of a win now mode but not completely as he is young. We could have a starting lineup of DJ Devin KJ Collins and Jacob. 2nd unit could vary depending on who is traded but it would be jones richardson primo kbd/jock/Zollins.

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    I rather trade #9 for OG. Even sign Ayton.
    OG is about 17 million plus per season. That's a reasonable salary, but Toronto would want more than a #9 pick to give up that reasonable salary. Probably the #9 + the 20 and a young player for OG. Ayton wants a max salary that starts in the high 20 millions if not more. He would be spurs highest paid player ever --- don't think that will happen. So somewhere in between might be the sweet spot. It just depends if the spurs want to win now or kick the can down another year or two. Either way I think the spurs make at least one trade come draft night, just don't know where.

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    I’d do 20 for Colins but only if it didn’t kill our already slim chance of signing Lavine (does it?)

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    OG is about 17 million plus per season. That's a reasonable salary, but Toronto would want more than a #9 pick to give up that reasonable salary. Probably the #9 + the 20 and a young player for OG. Ayton wants a max salary that starts in the high 20 millions if not more. He would be spurs highest paid player ever --- don't think that will happen. So somewhere in between might be the sweet spot. It just depends if the spurs want to win now or kick the can down another year or two. Either way I think the spurs make at least one trade come draft night, just don't know where.
    On our time horizon, OG is not worth 9 (he’s 25). I’m also not sure it’s worth swapping Jakob unless they’re making a play for Ayton as well for same the reason.

    But since we’re having fun, Jakob, Romeo (filler), and 25 seems fair both both sides.

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