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Sure, but they don't.
Yes, Blame China for the Virus: A bungled response in Western countries is no reason to take the heat off China. If China had a different government, the world could have been spared this terrible pandemic.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/25...irus-pandemic/
Sure, but they don't.
Should business go on as usual with them after this is over? What do you think?
It's very that Trash DID exactly what China did: lying, 15 people down to zero, hiding the severity, misleading everybody
Yes, so both pair feet should be held to the fire.
I think you're building a straw man.
I simply said China probably isn't going to change. We're the ones who need to change. If we did everything we could have I'd be all for the nonstop China bashing. As is, it's probably going to distract from the things we can and should do ourselves.
This is where the world needs to have a body for cooperation that takes up policy questions that affect all nations.
The red team does not believe in anything the UN does so...
Some unified response from the West on sharing and dissemination of data including oversight by other country's pandemic specialists needs a place.
The Chinese flat out did not let WHO or the CDC in when asked. After that, there was a bunch of other info that experts (know much better than I that other countries) needed from the Chinese and they/we did not get it.
The Chinese government knows this.
They have and will suffer from this economically.
It will be interesting in the future to see who in the Chinese government is given the boot after this.
Middle management.
Seriously expecting this regime that doesn't care much about life in the first place to change is almost magical thinking. Changing western companies' eternal race to the bottom might be slightly easier.
either boycott their products/trade with them
sanctions?
avoid chinese registered businesses overseas they are trying to get around the loopholes of doing foreign trade...
They're buying up Australia from what I've read, ain't they bro?
I didn't accuse you of believing it should be business as usual. Just wondering what you're thoughts are. And yes, we need to do things differently, and that doesn't mean the only thing we need to change is our pandemic response and nothing else. Even if we were perfectly prepared (like South Korea), we'd still have to stay-at-home, test, social distance, etc. We'd just thankfully have more hospital beds and ventilators and would've flattened the curve a bit quicker. We simply need to lessen our reliance on them, whether that be more domestic manufacturing or dealing with other countries who have a manufacturing base. I don't know why we don't deal with Mexico more in this case. We have automobile plants there and 90s Sony Trinitron televisions were often manufactured there. So it's not like they're incompetent.
yeh agriculture and farm land, even food manufacturing...
they were hording and stockpiling since january, the liberal govt down here was downplaying the virus till march til they got serious, now its out of hand... those chinese were sending back to china..
china takes donated to them from foreign govts, then goes and send them to countries with high death statistic aka italy/spain as some goodwill gesture, when they are the one who cause it...
When the Western economies have a chance, the Chinese need to be given a problem to grapple with.
We have the examples of this happening before and they clearly dont want to have to deal with certain economic and social issues.
Im sure its being considered now, I just dont know what it is.
And Part of their power is the enormous number of lives they do have.
They can overcome sophisticated technical problems by sheer manpower.
And of course stealing sophisticated solutions to problems that cant be solved by brute force.
Depend on them for our artificial standard of living. Overall, your wages would theoretically go up if we stopped 'depending' on China.
This is interesting.
Real Cultural shifts often need to really hurt.
I would rather it not require people dying though.
Hmm, no, your expenses would go up, your purchasing power down, and so would your standard of living. Corporate America would simply move production to Vietnam, etc, like some of they did when tariffs went up.
I don't think people understand that the 'standard of living' the US needs to have in order to compete with some of these countries for manufacturing include $4 an hour, 12 hour shifts, etc.
The hourly wage for an average Chinese in 2019 was 24 yuan an hour... at 0.14 US dollars per yuan = $3.36 US dollars an hour.
So, you're saying there would be hard-hitting consequences even though corporations would find equitable solutions.
What I'm saying is that there would be no such thing as our wages going up if we stopped 'depending' on China. It's actually the other way around, our wages would have less purchasing power.So, you're saying there would be hard-hitting consequences even though corporations would find equitable solutions.
They're some sneaky ers, those Chinese.
They're rolling in dough (government anyways). They're buying up all sorts of companies everywhere in the globe. This is also why it's difficult to block them.
Wages would theoretically not have as much purchasing power because prices went up, not because wages went down.
Which is effectively the same thing when it comes to standard of living... it's called inflation, I'm sure you're familiar with the term.
They're who the oligarchy most closely relates to...
This is indeed it. Ask Bezos, Cook, Waltons how they like them Chinese.
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