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  1. #176
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    Y’all are embarrassing with these takes

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    Ok. Thanks for stopping by.

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    Is this like the S&H version of that Jimmer thread? Kept pimping a scrub for no reason.

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    Is this like the S&H version of that Jimmer thread? Kept pimping a scrub for no reason.
    Far from a scrub. He’s a project that has shown immense potential to be a great player in this league.

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    Far from a scrub. He’s a project that has shown immense potential to be a great player in this league.
    Ok. Apologies. Probably shouldn’t compare him to Jimmer. But I don’t think he’d ever be a great player. I think he can be a fantastic role player, or even a contributor to a le team. But he’d be a Robert Horry Bruce Bowen type instead of a ginobili or kobe type.
    Last edited by ambchang; 12-28-2018 at 04:30 PM.

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    Ok. Apologies. Probably shouldn’t compare him to Jimmer. But I don’t think he’d ever be a great player. I think he can be a fantastic role player, or even a contributor to a le team. But he’d be a Robert Horry Bruce Bowen type instead of a ginobili or kobe type.
    on what grounds tbh.. like it's not a matter of opinion, the flaws in his game and personality on both ends are not disputable.

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    OP is one of the biggest re s on ST when it comes to judging talent

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    on what grounds tbh.. like it's not a matter of opinion, the flaws in his game and personality on both ends are not disputable.
    I think he has skills to contribute in a very niche environment. A role player in a very strict sense of the word. His major flaw is obviously his shooting which is the most important aspect of any player nowadays but if a team he’s on can have enough scorers he can be a perimeter Draymond Green type player where he can d up, shoot wide open threes and perhaps even direct the offense in a pinch.

    That said, it has to be pretty much a perfect situation and chmpionships aren’t built around role players. And by any measure, he’s a bust. A second pick should be a fringe all star or at least not a total liability that can’t be played. This is more like mid to late first rounder type talent.

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    I think he has skills to contribute in a very niche environment. A role player in a very strict sense of the word. His major flaw is obviously his shooting which is the most important aspect of any player nowadays but if a team he’s on can have enough scorers he can be a perimeter Draymond Green type player where he can d up, shoot wide open threes and perhaps even direct the offense in a pinch.

    That said, it has to be pretty much a perfect situation and chmpionships aren’t built around role players. And by any measure, he’s a bust. A second pick should be a fringe all star or at least not a total liability that can’t be played. This is more like mid to late first rounder type talent.
    while him being a bust is already a done deal, that does not mean he can't carve out an nba career. I do have trouble seeing what role can that be though. Because the passing/defense skills that he is being given, are manufactured and average at best.

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    while him being a bust is already a done deal, that does not mean he can't carve out an nba career. I do have trouble seeing what role can that be though. Because the passing/defense skills that he is being given, are manufactured and average at best.
    Well. I think it’s at least decent. It’s not all nba level and seriously if he didn’t play for the lakers he’d be another Michael Kidd gilchrist. Solid defensive player with major offensive flaws. But he does have value in the right environment, I think he can be a solid contributor in a 7th man or a defensive specialist starter role.

    His defense is solid but not like he’s prime pippen or anything though. His passing is above par for someone who has no their real offensive skills. It’s a somewhat unique combination of skills.
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    140 lurking

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    Meh, that's a pretty easy play to make.

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    140 lurking

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    Lonzo had 3 airballs in the 1st half..not sure if I've ever seen that before

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    18,8,5 49% FG since Lebron went down.

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    tbh, in hindsight there’s a lot of horrible takes in this thread and they’re not just from lakerfans

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    tbh, in hindsight there’s a lot of horrible takes in this thread and they’re not just from lakerfans
    strengthandhonor is a lakerfan too, in case that's the exception you're thinkin about

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    He’s obviously got some talent; just not the type that changes a teams fortune. He Only sucks in context of the hype and where he was drafted but it’s not like he’s a fringe nba player.

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    Ball's got a lot of ability. He'll definitely be a good guard for years to come.

    The best PG in the league? That still seems like a stretch.

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    I knew this got would show up when Lonzo has his one good game every 2 weeks. To be preceded by 4 games.

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    “1” good game


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    So those are the kind of numbers the best pg in the nba puts up. Wow standards sure have changed over the years.

    on a side note I see you forgot to add the fg% , ft%, and 3p% for the season and last 20. I wonder why that is

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    Here’s the backpedaling

    I said year 3. This is his second season. That’s basic math, ya dum-dum.

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