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    They can tank fine without Forbes

    That's quite the strange justification people are twisting themselves into.

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    Fvck!

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    1st 48 hours after news broke: "They HAVE to be making a move! This is about getting Ben Simmons! Or some other star! He's spacing for Simmons! It's obvious!"

    Post-48 hours: "They signed him to tank! They're trying to lose! It's obvious!"

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    1st 48 hours after news broke: "They HAVE to be making a move! This is about getting Ben Simmons! Or some other star! He's spacing for Simmons! It's obvious!"

    Post-48 hours: "They signed him to tank! They're trying to lose! It's obvious!"
    Wonder what their excuse will be when we end up treadmilling again with a pick in the 10-13 range next year

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    Yeah, we already have a bad defender in Walker, who we are still trying to figure out, or give another year. Forbes? Not any mystery there.

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    is there some official date when we will for sure know the contract details?

    i'm guessing right around before preseason starts at the latest?

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    Imagine if the spurs resigned Richard Jefferson after they traded him. This is how disgusting this is

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    Imagine if the spurs resigned Richard Jefferson after they traded him. This is how disgusting this is
    Too soon tbh

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    Imagine if the spurs resigned Richard Jefferson after they traded him. This is how disgusting this is



    Respect my greatness.
    Last edited by Aggie Hoopsfan; 08-10-2021 at 08:34 AM.

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    Forbes was the worst defender in the league in San Antonio. Went to Milwaukee and still the worst defender in the league.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...layer-ratings/

    Sort by defense and see Forbes is 250th out of 250. No hyperbole here. He's literally the worst defender in the league.
    Someone should do an analysis of the worst-rated (defensively) starting guard on each team to see where each stands among the 250 ranked by Nate Silver. There would be 30 such players.

    My guess is they would almost all be ranked pretty low defensively among the 250 but it would be interesting to see.

    Then see how those rankings correlate to the overall defensive rankings of their teams. Do the teams with the lowest-rated starting guards also have the worst team defenses? It would seem to me that defensive rankings would have be based on opponents' points per game, shooting percentage or points per posession, not some crazy-ass formula that depends upon blind faith in the man behind the curtain, sometimes referred to as "advanced stats" in a rather self-congratulatory way. (But I suppose that's just me.)

    My su ion is that the best defenses are more a product of who has the best defenders rather than who avoids the worst defenders.

    To analogize to baseball (National League), the teams with the best offenses may not be the ones with the best-hitting pitchers, the pitchers' primary contributions are in a different area. Same with guards who are in the lineup to create offense.

    At the very least, it would be interesting to see where each team's statistically worst defensive starting guard (an article of faith to begin with) ranked in the 250.

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    Only champion on the roster tbh


    How can they claim to be 2 time NBA champs.... :
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    How can they claim to be 2 time NBA champs.... :
    ...how can't they?

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    How can they claim to be 2 time NBA champs.... :

    They were NBA champs in 1970-71.

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    How can they claim to be 2 time NBA champs.... :
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

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    FiveThirtyEight 2020-2021 Defensive Rating Starting Point Guards
    Out of top 250 in PT.

    16) Mike Conley
    46) Ben Simmons
    67) Jrue Holliday
    92) Devonte' Graham (172) LaMelo Ball)
    99) Jamal Murray
    104) Lonzo Ball
    111) Patrick Beverley, Dejounte Murray
    124) Dennis Schroder
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    164) Luka Doncic
    182) Kyle Lowry, Coby White
    189) Malcolm Brogdon, Kendrick Nunn, Chris Paul, Elfrid Payton, John Wall
    202) Darius Garland
    207) Killian Hayes (slotted in, though less than top 250 minutes)
    214) Stephen Curry
    224) Damian Lillard, Russell Westbrook
    227) Kyrie Irving
    233) De'Aaron Fox
    240) Cole Anthony, Theo Maledon
    247) Ja Morant, Trae Young

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    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
    technically still Lew Alcindor

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    As long as it’s no more than 12 mpg is okay. It’s when Pop started him to space LMA and Demar that was the problem

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    As long as it’s no more than 12 mpg is okay. It’s when Pop started him to space LMA and Demar that was the problem

    Forbes got the start when Murray and White were both out with injury. The team was suddenly in a bind for guards.

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    technically still Lew Alcindor
    Or as John Wooden would say to his dying day -- "Lewis-Kareem."

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    technically still Lew Alcindor
    Or as John Wooden would say to his dying day -- "Lewis-Kareem."

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    1st 48 hours after news broke: "They HAVE to be making a move! This is about getting Ben Simmons! Or some other star! He's spacing for Simmons! It's obvious!"

    Post-48 hours: "They signed him to tank! They're trying to lose! It's obvious!"
    These people have been in denial for YEARS now. They will never stop. Now they’re wishfully thinking Forbes will only be getting spot minutes. Dude will be starting and will be getting more minutes than everyone on the roster other than one or two players

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    All you geniuses said Pop was going to lose the Gold Medal and he didn't. All you geniuses. Until Pop starts Forbes or gives him huge run over the younger guards, it hasn't happened yet. When Forbes was last on the team, Murray and White were much different players. I'll join you if he starts giving the guy 30 minutes, but it hasn't happened yet and it never will. Believe it or not, Forbes is a great shooter and the team is loading up on those. Believe it or not, he has championship experience. Last I checked, no one on the roster does. Of course the team isn't competing, but believe it or not, Forbes is now a veteran in the league and we just said sayonara to every single one of our vets.

    So chill the out, you losers.
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    All you geniuses said Pop was going to lose the Gold Medal and he didn't. All you geniuses. Until Pop starts Forbes or gives him huge run over the younger guards, it hasn't happened yet. When Forbes was last on the team, Murray and White were much different players. I'll join you if he starts giving the guy 30 minutes, but it hasn't happened yet and it never will. Believe it or not, Forbes is a great shooter and the team is loading up on those. Believe it or not, he has championship experience. Last I checked, no one on the roster does. Of course the team isn't competing, but believe it or not, Forbes is now a veteran in the league and we just said sayonara to every single one of our vets.

    So chill the out, you losers.
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    These people have been in denial for YEARS now. They will never stop. Now they’re wishfully thinking Forbes will only be getting spot minutes. Dude will be starting and will be getting more minutes than everyone on the roster other than one or two players
    It’s a completely different roster, without Demar and Aldridge to space out.

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