Iran, and a warning not to get complacent about Covid.

[midnightpulp]

But we already got complacent. Anyhow, Iran's situation should act as a cautionary tale about why you don't declare victory too soon, with such re ed claims as "the virus has a natural curve!" and other such nonsense. Here was Iran's projection in May (from one of the most accurate models out there)



Iran was one of the first global hotspots and were pacing with Italy early on. They got their outbreak under control quickly, with a lockdown, but we're lulled into a false sense of security. If Iran were the US during their period of decline, we'd have a bunch of "skeptics" on the likes of twitter telling us about how we overreacted, how the virus has a "natural progression," and how it's naturally dying out. Time to reopen and stop the fear mongering!

Let's see how Iran is looking now:




Notice their "double hump" curve (feel free to make a camel joke) and keep that mind. Also notice how case increases do indeed lag deaths, as we know. Iran was ing over mid May, but their fatality rate was still comparatively low. Again, if Iran were the US during this time, we'd get the same deflections from "the skeptics" that there's nothing to worry about. Sure cases are ing, but the death rate is flat!

Now about that double hump curve. Let's look at the US's case and death trend.



Looking mighty similar to Iran.

Now some might ask why is Iran experiencing a first wave resurgence (this isn't a second wave), while Italy, UK, and other European countries aren't? Because Iran didn't lock down long enough. They started easing restrictions only a couple of weeks after their peak. Italy locked down for about 2 months. Furthermore, Iran is obviously more religious than Europe, and Mosques were again full when restrictions were eased. Sound familiar? But addition to churches being vectors here, we also have bars and clubs, something not as prevalent in Iran.

What's this portend for the US? Not sure. Our peak was driven by a rather unique situation in New York, so I don't expect a plateau of 2K deaths daily like that. But even though we might not get a 2K per day figure, I think this current wave might be worse in a sense (not necessarily in deaths per day) since it's spread out among more states. During the peak, it was a "New York problem," or that's how the skeptics spun it. But now it's a problem in AZ, TX, FL, with CA and GA starting to grow, along with some smaller states.

I don't think a plateau of 1000-1200 with a daily peak that might near 2K is out of the question.

[spurraider21]

this alarmism might do more harm than good by giving people stress and anxiety tbh

[midnightpulp]

this alarmism might do more harm than good by giving people stress and anxiety tbh

Trying to Philo, but I was arguing against the exaggerated 2 million dead projections with disaster porn from Italy being played on a loop. Fear=/=panic.

And yes, playing up the virus as the second coming of the Black Plague during that time did have effects.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/23/...-away-from-er/
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-...th-atrisk.html
https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...-mental-health

I "fear" this disease, but I'm not depressed nor having panic attacks about it (and I have panic disorder). You can be informative without being hypebolic and fear-mongering.

[Spurtacular]

"Government eases restrictions"

So in other words, the CIA has paid for a fake narrative.
TheGreatYacht These Chumpettes take everything at face value.

[Spurtacular]

this alarmism might do more harm than good by giving people stress and anxiety tbh

Sure. Making people unhealthy and ruining livelihoods does real damage, lite.
You think people work so much because it's fun?

[midnightpulp]

"Government eases restrictions"

So in other words, the CIA has paid for a fake narrative.
TheGreatYacht These Chumpettes take everything at face value.

If it's a conspiracy, Trump and Co. have to also face that firing squad. You ready to aim and fire at your boy?

https://time.com/5863616/trump-ppp-bailout-loans/

But I'm sure Dems and their pals only took the bailout money, right

[Spurtacular]

Sure. Making people unhealthy and ruining livelihoods does real damage, lite.
You think people work so much because it's fun?

TheGreatYacht And these Chumpettes won't take ownership when we have the next politician-made Great Depression.
They'll blame it on orange man all day long.

[Spurtacular]

If it's a conspiracy, Trump and Co. have to also face that firing squad. You ready to aim and fire at your boy?

https://time.com/5863616/trump-ppp-bailout-loans/

But I'm sure Dems and their pals only took the bailout money, right

I called out the bailouts from the start. All the Chumpettes here voted present.

[midnightpulp]

TheGreatYacht And these Chumpettes won't take ownership when we have the next politician-made Great Depression.
They'll blame it on orange man all day long.

Bro, if you find rock solid evidence of this, I'll be right there with you on the proverbial firing squad. Just know Trump and his countless repub minions will be shoulder-to-shoulder with their dem counterparts. They really hate each other, don't they?

[Spurtacular]

Bro, if you find rock solid evidence of this, I'll be right there with you on the proverbial firing squad. Just know Trump and his countless repub minions will be shoulder-to-shoulder with their dem counterparts. They really hate each other, don't they?

Bro, I've called out the one-party system. It's Chumpettes who are blue team vs. red team.

[TheGreatYacht]

Bro, if you find rock solid evidence of this, I'll be right there with you on the proverbial firing squad. Just know Trump and his countless repub minions will be shoulder-to-shoulder with their dem counterparts. They really hate each other, don't they?

Spurtacular, he kind of has a point tbh. The we see on TV like Fox news vs CNN or Trump vs the media is all theater. Controlled opposition. Three, two, one....ACTION! Let the divide and conquer begin.

[midnightpulp]

I called out the bailouts from the start. All the Chumpettes here voted present.

I revisited your thread. Good call, but the lefties on this site didn't disagree.

I think we discussed this when it was passed, but let's repeat it:

It's de able, but unfortunately, it's par for the course. This was bipartisan too, there's no left or right here.

Even more terrible that this happens when there are certain groups (poor people, hospitals, etc) that need critical help, but in the big scheme of things, they're going to get peanuts.

Also absurd and corrupt that the POTUS will ignore and not accept oversight of how that money is spent, as mandated on the law.

Surprised you're not more on board with just plain rent strikes and refusals to "go back to work?" Forcing people back into their dead-end wage slave jobs so a billionaire can scrape a few more hundreds of millions off the DOW is also ty.

[ChumpDumper]

Bro, I've called out the one-party system.

You never called out Trump.

Call him out.

[Spurtacular]

You never called out Trump.

Call him out.

Did Obama rape us?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

I revisited your thread. Good call, but the lefties on this site didn't disagree.

I said they voted present.

[Spurtacular]

Spurtacular, he kind of has a point tbh. The we see on TV like Fox news vs CNN or Trump vs the media is all theater. Controlled opposition. Three, two, one....ACTION! Let the divide and conquer begin.

To a significant degree.

Both parties with media choose our nominees and presidents (as much as they can).

I do think Trump was not meant to be in the nomination or the presidency.

But he was never too big a threat, tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

Did Obama rape us?

Yes or no.

Your characterization.

Not mine.

Why don't you believe anything you say?

[Spurtacular]

Your characterization.

Not mine.

Why don't you believe anything you say?

If we don't have matching definitions, then I don't see the point. You're just playing a game; and you're crying that I won't play.

[ChumpDumper]

If we don't have matching definitions, then I don't see the point. You're just playing a game; and you're crying that I won't play.

My definition doesn't have to match yours.

Your definition has to match yours.

It doesn't.

Just say you don't count Trump in any of your criticisms of government or a part of any of your government conspiracy theories. That'll take care of it.

[Spurtacular]

My definition doesn't have to match yours.

Your definition has to match yours.

It doesn't.

Just say you don't count Trump in any of your criticisms of government or a part of any of your government conspiracy theories. That'll take care of it.

We don't have to meet on equal terms

Spoken like the psychopath you are.

[ChumpDumper]

We don't have to meet on equal terms

Spoken like the psychopath you are.

you're saying I have to agree with you on everything or you won't discuss anything.

OK. That explains everything about you here.

[Spurtacular]

you're saying I have to agree with you on everything or you won't discuss anything.

OK. That explains everything about you here.

I've came to a determination that Trump has not raped us. Thank you for your interest.

[ChumpDumper]

Just say you don't count Trump in any of your criticisms of government or a part of any of your government conspiracy theories. That'll take care of it.

I've came to a determination that Trump has not raped us. Thank you for your interest.

[Spurtacular]

Did Obama rape us, cherp?

Yes or no.

[TheGreatYacht]

To a significant degree.

Both parties with media choose our nominees and presidents (as much as they can).

I do think Trump was not meant to be in the nomination or the presidency.

But he was never too big a threat, tbh.

Bruh, that's where you and I have our differences. Trump is part of the plan. He's an actor. He's another Zionist freemason puppet.

Unfortunately, he IS the chosen one to fulfill the NWO and Agenda 21.

"I am the chosen one."

- Donald Trump