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    It all stated with that Aaron Ginn Medium article posted in mid-March, which to be fair, did have some useful content and challenged the prevailing projections at the time of 60 million infected/2 million dead. Ginn's analysis was correct in that regard. But since then, Ginn, among other truthers, led by a pulp novelist named Alex Berenson have went off the reservation with their denial and have sadly manipulated the tholdren's of the world along with more reasonable people (like TSA) into believing Covid "isn't that bad" and/or that we have already crushed the curve. So they conclude that any headline claiming Covid deaths are rising is simply "fear mongering" by the mainstream media.

    This is the primary data they use.



    What you're looking it is the weekly death toll from the CDC. The "truthers" will plot on a graph like this and then say, "See. Look how we've flattened!"

    Big image, so I'll just post the link.

    https://imgur.com/9hk4HlY

    What this image is illustrating is the difference between the time the deaths actually occurred and when they were added to the various data tracking sites that the media use to report daily deaths. On July 4th, you can see the difference between the CDC (orange bar) and the Covidtracking project's (blue bar) count. The reason for the former's higher count is because backlogged cases that happened weeks or months ago are finally getting tallied. So with this, the truthers conclude that daily deaths are being grossly over-reported and there's really no e happening at all! It's just backlogged data finally being added.

    But what they fail to omit is that the CDC only counts deaths when they receive an OFFICIAL death certificate. How long does it take to get a death certificate?

    How long does it take to get a death certificate? Four parties are involved in processing the first death certificate, so the amount of time it takes to arrive can vary. However, it is normal for a county to take 2-3 weeks to process an order, and the state could take 3-4 weeks.
    Boiled down. The CDC's data lags by weeks, maybe months, since death certificates can sometimes take months. "Team reality" fell for this phenomenon before when they were sharing this popular image.



    And what happened when the data caught up?



    This twitter user sums it up:

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    To be fair, it didn't start with an article.
    People could smell this bull miles away.

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    To be fair, it didn't start with an article.
    People could smell this bull miles away.
    You were going to be a "truther," either way. Ginn's article and the subsequent data tricks of "Team Reality" (Justin Hart, Ethical Skeptic, Alex Berenson) have roped in many non-conspiracy types, because they do present their data viz rather compellingly that the uninformed will fall for.

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    To be fair, derp is really quite stupid.

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    You were going to be a "truther," either way. Ginn's article and the subsequent data tricks of "Team Reality" (Justin Hart, Ethical Skeptic, Alex Berenson) have roped in many non-conspiracy types, because they do present their data viz rather compellingly that the uninformed will fall for.
    "non-conspiracy" types

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    To be fair, derp is really quite stupid.
    Derpality wasn't named after Spurtacular, but the collective of "truthers" on twitter who are trying to spin the data anyway they can to downplay the situation. Alex Berenson coined the term for his squad.

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    Derpality wasn't named after Spurtacular, but the collective of "truthers" on twitter who are trying to spin the data anyway they can to downplay the situation. Alex Berenson coined the term for his squad.
    Totally fits though.

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    Derpality wasn't named after Spurtacular
    So Nother Level stole that. Can't say I'm surprised.

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    What you're looking it is the weekly death toll from the CDC.
    So, cases skyrocketing and deaths halving.

    Yea, that's what I think of when I think pandemic.


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    derp can't read

    Thinks he's Don Draper.

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    derp can't read

    Thinks he's Don Draper.
    Do you think you're somehow not the sheep Don Draper spoke of?

    Cherp's cognitive dissonance

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    Do you think you're somehow not the sheep Don Draper spoke of?

    Cherp's cognitive dissonance
    You're quoting a basic cable character over and over like it's some kind of profound .

    sad

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    The sheep are the ones that think Don Draper is a real person.

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    You're quoting a basic cable character over and over like it's some kind of profound .

    sad
    No, he saw it on Netflix. That is premium.

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    You're quoting a basic cable character over and over like it's some kind of profound .

    sad
    No, he saw it on Netflix. That is premium.

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    No, he saw it on Netflix. That is premium.

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    Look at these chumpettes dismissing Hollywood when it suits them.
    Convenience. Par.

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    Look at these chumpettes dismissing Hollywood when it suits them.
    Convenience. Par.
    Lol, begging for help to bail you out of this thread.

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    Look at these chumpettes dismissing Hollywood when it suits them.
    Convenience. Par.
    Do you ever dismiss Hollywood?

    Yes or no.

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    Look at these chumpettes dismissing Hollywood when it suits them.
    Convenience. Par.
    They sure as weren't mocking Cuck Garden when he was throwing a tantrum that we all need to get micro-chipped cos The Jetsons



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    Lol, begging for help to bail you out of this thread.
    All that guy would do is post a bunch of YouTubes.

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    All that guy would do is post a bunch of YouTubes.
    He’ll take whatever he can get.

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    So, cases skyrocketing and deaths halving.

    Yea, that's what I think of when I think pandemic.

    Um, positive rate is about half of where it was during the peak. This puts on track for around a 1000 death per day 7 average. That's still BAD. We're just desensitized because we went through a worse peak (worst peak in the entire world) that was concentrated in the North East.

    If people would've heeded the advice, we'd probably be looking forward to a 100-200 day 7 average and lower over the next month, and also looking forward to a late Summer full reopening. The "Freedumbs" and "MAGATs" ed it up.

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    Um, positive rate is about half of where it was during the peak. This puts on track for around a 1000 death per day 7 average. That's still BAD. We're just desensitized because we went through a worse peak (worst peak in the entire world) that was concentrated in the North East.

    If people would've heeded the advice, we'd probably be looking forward to a 100-200 day 7 average and lower over the next month, and also looking forward to a late Summer full reopening. The "Freedumbs" and "MAGATs" ed it up.
    People aren't desensitized to the fact that unhealthy people die. That's life.
    Careful about pushing your bull too hard. There is presumably a breaking point.

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    People aren't desensitized to the fact that unhealthy people die. That's life.
    Careful about pushing your bull too hard. There is presumably a breaking point.
    What are you gonna do about it?

    Cry out for TGY again?

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