Who will the Dems blame if/when Biden loses to Trump?

[vy65]

[DarrinS]

So you voted straight party Democrat on a primary ballot. Big if true.

[spurraider21]

So you voted straight party Democrat on a primary ballot. Big if true.

[Spurminator]

sure

you choose dem or repub

then vote

in this state - yup those are current rules

I'm aware of the rules and how primary ballots work. It's a little weird to say you voted for Dems down the ballot when it goes without saying. I think you're backtracking now but I also don't care enough to belabor it.

[spurraider21]

I didn't say Bernie voters are racist. I said in some cases they'll blame stupid n!ggers, just like they did when Biden won SC.

basically Will Hunting

[Spurs Homer]

I'm aware of the rules and how primary ballots work. It's a little weird to say you voted for Dems down the ballot when it goes without saying. I think you're backtracking now but I also don't care enough to belabor it.

cool non-story,

thx!

[picnroll]

Who will the bros, who insist Bernie will beat Trump, blame when he loses?

[spurraider21]

Who will the bros, who insist Bernie will beat Trump, blame when he loses?

probably same as biden voters.

biden voters will blame bernie bros for not coming out in big enough numbers to vote and letting trump get reelected

bernie bros will blame democrat moderates for staying home and letting trump get reelected

[Reck]

well IIRC , the black voters in SC that voted Biden were overwhelmingly older voters

45-plus years old


which is why I specifically said “young black voters” on bernies team


Also bernie drawing 12-14k voters at his events
vs
1.5 to 2.5k for all other candidates

(trump rallies are less but they frame the screen to make it appear there are more people- and/or lie about attendance anyway)

Biden pretty much blanketed Bernie in every single category in SC in all groups/ages.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...olina-primary/

The only group he won was 17-29 45% to 26%

Not sure what rally numbers have to do with actual voters.

Just been honest and real here. Biden is not really my prefered candidate but we got what we got.

[Spurminator]

basically Will Hunting

Not singling out WH. The idea that SC blacks are mindless sheep who went along with Biden because of Obama and because of Clyburn was all over social media from angry Bernie folks.

[Spurs Homer]

Biden pretty much blanketed Bernie in every single category in SC in all groups/ages.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...olina-primary/

The only group he won was 17-29 45% to 26%

Not sure what rally numbers have to do with actual voters.

Just been honest and real here. Biden is not really my prefered candidate but we got what we got.

yup

but we dont know what we got yet

and one side of the party is trying to kill the other side- out of fear

[hater]

Who will the bros, who insist Bernie will beat Trump, blame when he loses?

loses to Trump? I already said its a toss ip

most bernie bros are realistic and agree.

we are not en led and complacent like Hillary fans and expect a big win tbqh

[Reck]

loses to Trump? I already said its a toss ip

most bernie bros are realistic and agree.

Most of these dudes still live at home with their parents. I dont think realistic is a word to use with them. Most of Bernie's policies are also hard to implement. A realist would realize this.

If you like the guy for being a genuine guy-that's great.

[spurraider21]

have to give fox credit for constantly giving brazile a platform. its pretty smart tbh

[Will Hunting]

Not singling out WH. The idea that SC blacks are mindless sheep who went along with Biden because of Obama and because of Clyburn was all over social media from angry Bernie folks.

I seriously doubt very many people beyond me said “stupid n!ggers”

Dens are in denial because of their intellectual superiority complex they don’t want to admit that southern blacks aren’t any less mindless than the southern whites who they make fun of with things like votingrepublican.jpeg

[TSA]

So you voted straight party Democrat on a primary ballot. Big if true.

[Will Hunting]

Biden voters, which will include me if he's the candidate, are going to blame people who didn't vote because they weren't excited enough about Biden to vote against Donald Trump.

This ignores the reality that more or less half of the voting eligible population isn’t going to show up to the ballot box unless they’re given a compelling reason to and unfortunately Dems rely on that half of the population a lot more than Republicans do.

Nominating unexciting candidates one after another and wondrously expecting good voter turnout because you think the rest of the country should hate Trump as much as you do strikes me as a complete failure to understand the voters whose votes Biden needs to get.

[spurraider21]

This ignores the reality that more or less half of the voting eligible population isn’t going to show up to the ballot box unless they’re given a compelling reason to and unfortunately Dems rely on that half of the population a lot more than Republicans do.

Nominating unexciting candidates one after another and wondrously expecting good voter turnout because you think the rest of the country should hate Trump as much as you do strikes me as a complete failure to understand the voters whose votes Biden needs to get.

the notion that turnout will automatically be there because everybody is motivated to get trump out is over-optimistic. i dont think democrat voters hated trump any less 4 years ago

[benefactor]

I seriously doubt very many people beyond me said “stupid n!ggers”

Dens are in denial because of their intellectual superiority complex they don’t want to admit that southern blacks aren’t any less mindless than the southern whites who they make fun of with things like votingrepublican.jpeg

[Chinook]

the notion that turnout will automatically be there because everybody is motivated to get trump out is over-optimistic. i dont think democrat voters hated trump any less 4 years ago

If anything, it is probably less. I think a lot of people legit thought Trump would've destroyed the world by now. No matter who gets the nomination, I think there will be a decent chunk of folks who are willing to do four more years rather than endorse the direction of the party.

I'm actually okay with Biden, so I'm gonna vote unless the superdelegates pull some corrupt to give him the nod even though Sanders wins by a sizeable plurality.

[spurraider21]

If anything, it is probably less. I think a lot of people legit thought Trump would've destroyed the world by now. No matter who gets the nomination, I think there will be a decent chunk of folks who are willing to do four more years rather than endorse the direction of the party.

I'm actually okay with Biden, so I'm gonna vote unless the superdelegates pull some corrupt to give him the nod even though Sanders wins by a sizeable plurality.

yeah i'd vote for biden in a heartbeat in the general election if he's the nominee, unless the level of ery is beyond reason (assuming he doesnt get the plurality outright, which does not seem farfetched at this point).

the only democrat candidate i would not vote for is bloomberg

[Spurminator]

the notion that turnout will automatically be there because everybody is motivated to get trump out is over-optimistic. i dont think democrat voters hated trump any less 4 years ago

2018 had the highest voter turnout of any midterm election since 1914, and Democrats won the overall national vote by 9%, so I'm not sure why you guys are so quick to underestimate the Trump hate factor. That didn't happen because voters were super stoked about their ultra-progressive Senate and House candidates.

I don't see any reason to believe that turnout will be lower than 2016, and I don't see Trump picking up more new voters than the Democrat candidate, regardless of who that candidate is... With that said, the only Democrat candidate that could conceivably cause that many voters to switch from Clinton to Trump is Bernie Sanders.

Sanders can win, but he would be a historically unprecedented candidate. You can't compare him to any previous candidate to predict how the general vote would go. He's a self-avowed, proud socialist. He will excite a lot of new voters, and he will scare a lot of voters who would have otherwise voted Democrat. None of us knows which of those variables is bigger.

[rjv]

sanders will get some of the blame. gubbard will too. and whatever third party candidate is on the ticket.

[Blake]

Other: The outdated electoral college

[Spurminator]

I seriously doubt very many people beyond me said “stupid n!ggers”

Dens are in denial because of their intellectual superiority complex they don’t want to admit that southern blacks aren’t any less mindless than the southern whites who they make fun of with things like votingrepublican.jpeg

It's a big world, I'm sure you're not the only one. It's the implication more than the specific language. 150K South Carolina blacks didn't vote a certain way because they were told to do so.