traded TOSB Fish to get Sessions, who's now thrown under the bus for TOSB Nash
back in the hunt
Like I said...trading 4 first round draft picks for an aging point guard who's owned by one of your biggest conference compe ors every time out is a desperation move that is going to destroy their future.
Like I said...trading 4 first round draft picks for an aging point guard who's owned by one of your biggest conference compe ors every time out is a desperation move that is going to destroy their future.
Um, the Lakers traded a 2013 and 2015 first round pick along with two second round picks in 2013/2014...
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/s...ign-trade-dealIn return, the Suns get four draft picks -- first rounders in 2013 and 2015 and second rounders in 2013 and 2014.
Bad trade for the lakers they traded there 2013 and 2015 first-round picks and 2013 and 2014 second-round picks for a 38 year old point guard.They sure are desperate. :
oh no! darn the Lakers! now they got a PG who:
1) will get more touches than Kobe
2) is over the hill
3) doesn't play defense for a defense 1st coach
4) has no one to pick and roll with
5) isn't comfortable playing in a set offense in case Kobe/Bynum want to get a lot of touches
How exactly does this make them better?
Good chance that the Lakers 2015 pick is lottery, tbh... is that pick protected?
And we'll be sure to bump this thread when the Lakers get ousted in the 2nd round.
Nash is such a smart, crafty player, I expect him to be somewhat effective in the Lakers's system, which is about as far away from his comfort zone as you can get, but I don't see him providing much more of an impact than last year's savior. He's even worse than Sessions defensively and the fact he needs to dominate the ball to maximize his impact won't complement Kirby's game very well, if at all.
And then there's his back issues.
Great ing pickup, Mitch
Mortgage your future for a player who will retire in 2 years. Lakers need athleticism, shooters, and a ing bench. Nash only provides one of those things.
His back may crumble into dust on the sidelines, tbh....How the can we keep Nash alive for 3 years
We don't have miracle workers on staff like the Suns
Just saw the info on the picks...
Anyone care to explain/figure out what "minimally protected" means int this case? Top 3 protected only? top 5?After the eight-time All-Star appealed to Sarver and other Suns partners, the Suns had a change of heart Wednesday afternoon and negotiated to receive the worst of Miami's and the Lakers' 2013 first-round picks, a minimally protected 2015 Lakers first-round pick, Denver's 2013 second-round pick, the Lakers' 2014 second-round pick and the cash.
Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/sports/arti...#ixzz1zj1Bl9qa
I ain't even Laker hating. This really isn't a good pickup for the Lakers. Simply a lateral move, at best. Nash has no horses to run with him on the break, they still don't solve their defensive liabilities at the PG spot, and it's been proven, time after time after time, that Steve Nash, even in his MVP prime, can be contained in the half-court, which the Lakers will be playing offense in 99.999999% of the time.
Go ahead and spin it in that re ed homer way of yours though, Lkrfan. Just know, you'll be wrong again, like you were wrong about everything last year (Ramon Sessions's Show, McRoberts and Murphy being adequate replacements for Lamar Odom, etc, etc).
I ain't even Laker hating. This really isn't a good pickup for the Lakers. Simply a lateral move, at best. Nash has no horses to run with him on the break, they still don't solve their defensive liabilities at the PG spot, and it's been proven, time after time after time, that Steve Nash, even in his MVP prime, can be contained in the half-court, which the Lakers will be playing offense in 99.999999% of the time.
Go ahead and spin it in that re ed homer way of yours though, Lkrfan. Just know, you'll be wrong again, like you were wrong about everything last year (Ramon Sessions's Show, McRoberts and Murphy being adequate replacements for Lamar Odom, etc, etc).
I wonder if Bynum will grow up
it didn't change nothing
ohh god... horrible analysis...man what happened to you..I used to love reading your well thought out takes but you've fallen off ever since the back door sweep.
May I break it down for you:
- First off according to Nash - Kobe was calling him constantly to come and run his (Kobe's offense) and Nash saw that Kobe was sincere and finally said yes.
- Nash's ability to distribute and hit clutch shots outweigh any defensive liabilities. The fact that he's so good facilitating and scoring with his very high shooting % far outweighs his lack of Defense. Let's not kid ourselves Harding and Westbrook are not known for their defense either. In fact no guards are today. Nash will be able to easily get around those guys as he showed last year.
- I value experience over youth. Look at what happened in the play-offs with a youthful Ramon Sessions you really think LA would have lost that series against OKC with Nash running the offense.
- Kobe has never played with a player of Nash's ability before. He 'begged' Nash to play with him and that alone shows his willingness to let Nash run the show. Kobe finally doesn't have to facilitate
- This is no hyperbole but in all seriousness Nash's presence alone will be awe inspiring for a lot of Laker players because they respect him. Even Dwight was lobbying the Magic to go after Nash - maybe now he'll change his mind.
- This Nash trade now gives Dwight the cover he needs to go ahead and sign the ext with us
Ohh I almost forgot Tony Parker and the Spurs are in trouble
Just going from what I heard..apparently a buddy of mine read it wrong.
Missed you in the World Series the last two years...where were you?
Just going from what I heard..apparently a buddy of mine read it wrong.
Missed you in the World Series the last two years...where were you?
Lateral move? I know you are re ed but this is beyond stupidity.
But it's totally expected from you. You cannot even be honest about your hating obsession. Shall we bring up all your " Dan Gilbert" threads as Sessions was playing well down the stretch? Apparently you were wrong too. Your obsession really makes you waver in illogical ways. He wilted in the playoffs and that was always a possibility since it was an unknown. And he is now gone.
Nash plays terrible defense. That is a given. No worse than Fisher or Sessions though. Bad is just bad and all 3 are bad. What he does do that neither Fish nor Sessions did/do well is run the prick and roll and make quality entry passes to the bigs in the post. That in itself is a huge upgrade. He also is one of the best shooting guards in the history of the game. Surely a lateral move as Fish and Sessions were so well known for the shooting prowess. hahaha So no more leaving the PG alone to go double Pau, Bynum, or Kobe. WE could go on and on about spreading the floor, taking pressure off Kobe to create, setting up higher % looks for everyone in the purple & gold etc. but it's all lost on you. Lateral move? What a moronic comment and one that shows you just have no grip on reality when it comes to your Laker hate.
Now the intangibles. I love how you morons say the Lakers have mortgaged their future by trading away their picks. The Lakers haven’t had a first round pick since 2007 and have won 2 les since. Brilliant. They are definitely going all in to win now but that in no way mortgages their future. It's the Lakers and I have been hearing this same rant for 40 years. Do any of you know if this is the end of the moves the Lakers are making? No. Who now are thinking, oh with Nash there distributing I am much more interested in going there? Lots of questions still to be answered.
One question that doesn’t though is if this is a lateral move. Any child with minimal basketball knowledge can answer that one.
Unless of course they are consumed, jealous, and obsessed by all the Laker tradition of WINNING!
Sing it Midget! From the mountain tops baby! Sing away!
Last edited by cobbler; 07-05-2012 at 04:23 PM.
cobbler just went HAM on mid!
Kobe dropping truth bombs on the Nash acquisition. He's all in:
People fail to acknowledge that Kobe had to be an MJ/Scottie clone for the Lakers to be successful. He's lead the Lakers in assists and scoring for years. Now with Nash onboard, he can go into attack mode and leave the playmaking primarily to Nash. Teams will pay for tripling him with the game on the line. Nash will get open look after open look. Nash's midrange game will also be deadly playing with the weapons LA has.
This season should be fun. Get your popcorn ready.
Laker beat writer Kevin Ding discusses Nash trade with DP on podcast
Good interview.
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