Official 2021 Free Agency Day Thread (Begins at 5PM CT)

[baseline bum]

Pick is protected but oh well. spurs on that rebuild smoke now

Top 29 protected?

[baseline bum]

plz tell me spurs have another move

Austin or Seattle?

[Robz4000]

Gimme my credit, Robz, I told ya we weren't bringing DePression back

LESSS GOOOO

[objective]

Spurs are capped out, for anyone thinking they could still sign anyone to anything over the room exception

[tbdog]

So, who do the spurs target with the extra 10 or so million left?

[RC_Drunkford]

Agreed on the fit, but we have different opinions about if he's worth it and that's it.
I don't think his skillset is worth the max, you do, we'll leave it at that.

Btw, this discussion is pointless because the Hawks offered him 125/5.

It's ok. But his max is not the supermax. 28 million in this league are nowhere near max money. It's just the max that he can get at this point. The supermax contracts are 40+ million, so to me 28 million is right around his value

[LeBowen]

5 year, $125 million was a lowball. Spurs could have offered 4 year, $119 million.

Btw, let me try and spin it this way.

Is Collins worth double of what's DJ getting?
15.5/7/5.5 while being one of the better guard defenders in the league?

It's not as simple as looking at the stats and trying to put a price on players.

But it's all behind us now, there's nothing left but hope that some of the young guys develop into legit players.

[lefty20]

Idk why so many posters are hung up on John Collins. Signing him with the max would literally make Spurs exactly what we all feared they'd be with DDR, a treadmill team with a seriously overpayed player on a multi year deal.

[LeBowen]

It's ok. But his max is not the supermax. 28 million in this league are nowhere near max money. It's just the max that he can get at this point. The supermax contracts are 40+ million, so to me 28 million is right around his value

Yeah, I'm a bit conservative when it comes to salaries.
Throwing 30M+ contracts just like that...nah.

I don't think that there's more than maybe 5 players worth the supermax.

[Kurik]

Pick is protected but oh well. spurs on that rebuild smoke now

Where did you see that?

[slick'81]

So, who do the spurs target with the extra 10 or so million left?

[duncan2150]

Idk why so many posters are hung up on John Collins. Signing him with the max would literally make Spurs exactly what we all feared they'd be with DDR, a treadmill team with a seriously overpayed player on a multi year deal.

+1

[Darius Bieber]

Spurs have around $4-6 Mill left on the cap, with one roster spot left. Looks like this is the roster we are rolling with. Legit, probably the worst roster in all of the NBA, and even some G-League teams could beat it. Tank is on.

[spurspl]

kendrick nunn to lakers 10mil/2, thats a steal

[slick'81]

Where did you see that?

per nbc sports


Aminu has never been all that fantasy-relevant, and that won't change in his age-31 season. The Spurs will also be securing a protected first-round pick and two second-round picks as part of the DeMar DeRozan sign-and-trade deal.

[cd98]

Spurs have around $4-6 Mill left on the cap, with one roster spot left. Looks like this is the roster we are rolling with. Legit, probably the worst roster in all of the NBA, and even some G-League teams could beat it. Tank is on.

Come on, this team is way better than any G-League team. And the goal here is to lose. Pop did for Duncan. Now it's time to do it again. The worse the roster, the better. That said, we'll probably finish at the play in because some teams like Sacramento are just so good at the tank and underperforming.

[Sugus]

Idk why so many posters are hung up on John Collins. Signing him with the max would literally make Spurs exactly what we all feared they'd be with DDR, a treadmill team with a seriously overpayed player on a multi year deal.

Yeah, I wanted him kind of, but it'd certainly have won the Spurs many more games than they needed if they were to go for a full-on tank. Nowhere land as you say. Collins is a good player, but hardly someone I'm shedding tears over - , we'll probably be looking to draft someone in his same mold, hopefully even better, with our pick next season.

LFG Spurs!

[Sugus]

We all wanted the young guys to get bigger roles, now that all the veterans are gone, our wish is granted.

I wanted Collins, too, but at 30 million a year? Not worth it. He's a good player and a good fit for our roster, but I don't think he'd ever be an all-star in the West.
Idk why are some of you talking about waiving Thad? He's a good rotation player and can even play some minutes at C.

And we'll have $30M cap space again the next year.

Biggest win here is that PATFO didn't waste it on useless scrubs like Markkanen or Oubre.

Now it's on Derrick, DJ and Lonnie to show us what they got, it's about time.

If they don't improve, we're in contention for a top5 pick. Win-win considering Brian Wright's (in)competence.

Great take

[Atl Spur]

I don’t think we’re done.

[TD 21]

All the fluffers rationalized our guard heavy draft picks by insisting that the FO would sign one of Lauri or John Collins to fill the gaping hole we have in our big man rotation. To come away with neither makes the draft even worse in retrospect. Primo better be the next James Harden. Otherwise, it's looking like the worst draft pick in Spurs history.

It is funny that with $48M in cap space and a glaring need at the starting four, they somehow managed to end up still not filling a spot that's mostly been an issue for about 15 years (when last Duncan could still primarily masquerade as one).

The other need was a sixth man/combo guard type, which also remains unfilled.

[Robz4000]

The FO is still a dumpster fire and the McDermott/Collins signings sucked, but at least they fulfilled the #1 thing this offseason: not bringing back DePression.

[Trill Clinton]

The Kawhi trade actually turned out good in the long run and it aint even close to being complete

[r0drig0lac]

John Collins is much better than the combined haul of McNugget/crappy Collins/Thad Young/Aminu.

easily, this forum is weird

[DPG21920]

Great take

That’s the “good” side but it was bare min imo.

You could have let the vets walk as FA, that took no effort and should have been obvious. But you have a lottery pick and 50M in cap space and you land:

29 year old bad defender who literally conflicts with both the rebuild and cap space you seemed to value next year in Doug

Injured big man but at least hes young

Old Thad and Aminu

And a top 10 protected pick that conveys 4 years from now.

Is that a really creative good job for having 50M blank slate and a lottery pick? I’d say no. It’s not a disaster, but it’s bare minimum stuff and quite wasteful overall with still some conflicting plans which is worrisome.

Now, if the Collins deal is fully non guaranteed and Doug is team option 3rd year and they flip Thad/Aminu that can change things.

But as of now, 50M in space and a lottery pick turning into no good players along side your youth and one first 4 years away is hard for me to celebrate as a win. But the youth is freed so that is good (depending on how much Pop now relies on the new vets in Doug/Thad/Aminu).

Again - simple questions: Did they truly accelerate their future with players/picks in a meaningful way? Did they get closer to the playoffs?

Or when it’s all said and done are they closer to exactly where they have been: Seed 8-12? If the answer is 8-12, despite freeing the youth up, you have to ask? Was anything they did worth it?

[DPG21920]

The Kawhi trade actually turned out good in the long run and it aint even close to being complete

What bruh? Kawhi got a le and two max deals.

Spurs missed the playoffs, are dead last in the division and have no franchise player or chance of making the playoffs anytime soon. Yeah,worked out great lol