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    & the old musta been in the right because he's correct...they're trying to change the law now.

    He's setting up his court room defense +++ his in-the-street defense.

    He's eager for the fight, like a junkyard dog.>>>Stu Nahan, "Rocky"---"he really wants it."
    ADDENDUM:::& "they're" gonna oblige him, been waiting for it [themselves] nigh 6+ years..."oh, he's spitting up blood now."
    Some please adjust Dales meds.

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    Attacking police and the National Guard is "legitimate political discourse" when Trumpistas do it.


    https://int.nyt.com/data/do enttoo...e4f18/full.pdf

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    Some please adjust Dales meds.
    I used to golf all by myself. "C'mon, come with us, it'll speed up the course."

    "No." While looking away. tee, hee.

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    Only took one year for the GOP to become functionally pro-putsch

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    Been nice knowing you Mike, enjoy your retirement


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    I heard this week that President Trump said I had the right to overturn the election. President Trump is wrong. I had no right to overturn the election. The presidency belongs to the American people, and the American people alone. And frankly, there is no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American president.

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    Attacking police and the National Guard is "legitimate political discourse" when Trumpistas do it.


    https://int.nyt.com/data/do enttoo...e4f18/full.pdf
    so much for conservative pearl clutching over the illegitimacy of political violence

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    GOP = Treason

    Everyone OTHER than GOP= Democracy

    cannot boil it down any more than ^ that

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    A major US party legitimating political violence?

    No one?

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    A major US party legitimating political violence?

    No one?
    Me. Yes, up & down the Northwest United States in the Summer of '20, when Antifa & BLM thugs commandeered police stations for days at a time, Winester.

    Absolutely.

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    This coup is taking forever.

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    Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful

    - Chris Cuomo

    Not the reason he was fired.

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    Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful

    - Chris Cuomo

    Not the reason he was fired.
    I'll put you down for "cool with political violence"

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    I'll put Cuomo down for "cool with political violence"
    fify

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    So what's your take on the Eastman memo, the call to Brad to find more votes in the 11th hour and the military contingencies for Jan. 6th Mark Meadows was shopping around a day or two beforehand?

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    Any take on the fake electors?

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    Are you cool with right wing political violence?

    Yes or no.

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    Only took one year for the GOP to become functionally pro-putsch
    One year? Took like a week.

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    One year? Took like a week.
    The RNC blessing is brand new

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    The RNC blessing is brand new
    They already blessed it when they endorsed the coup by not convicting the nazi.

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    The Overstock.com guy pitching plans for a military coup.

    Wild stuff.

    Sidney Powell ended up banned from the White House, but her draft EO was largely incorporated into the 38 page PowerPoint presentation Mark Meadows was shopping around a day or two before Jan. 6th.



    The draft executive order seen by Trump was retained automatically by the White House as a presidential record. It was recently turned over to the select committee by the National Archives after the supreme court rejected Trump’s appeal to block its release.


    Trump was handed the do ent when he sat down with four informal advisers – Powell, Trump’s former national security advisor Michael Flynn, former Trump aide Emily Newman and former Overstock chief executive Patrick Byrne – who had arrived at the White House unannounced.


    The group had not scheduled an audience with Trump, but after Byrne messaged an acquaintance, they were cleared to enter the White House by Garrett Ziegler, a policy aide to former Trump advisor Peter Navarro, and Patrick Weaver, an aide with the National Security Council.


    It is understood that the four were not registered in the West Wing guest access system as meeting with the former president, which may have violated national security protocols.


    In a statement, Byrne said Trump had called the group into the Oval Office after he saw Flynn, his former national security adviser, with the rest of the group about 25ft from the room. Eric Herschmann, a White House senior adviser, slipped in behind them.


    Trump first reviewed the draft executive order and do ents brought by Powell, including a physical copy of Trump’s executive order 13848 that authorized sweeping powers in the event of foreign election interference, as she ran through the supposed legality of suspending normal law.


    Powell and Newman told Trump that he could rely on that order and classified National Security Presidential Memoranda 13 and 21 – cyber-security memos referenced in Powell’s draft executive order – to have the national guard seize voting machines.


    That prompted pushback from the former White House counsel Patrick Cipollone, who had joined the meeting with former White House staff secretary, Derek Lyons, who supported Cipollone’s claim that Trump lacked the cons utional authority to take such measures.


    Byrne made another attempt to convince Trump to appoint Powell as special counsel and have Flynn act as “field marshal” to coordinate her efforts. The draft executive order said Flynn would be “direct liaison” to coordinate the “applicable US departments and agencies”.


    Byrne claimed Trump had a range of options. He could decide whether to investigate election fraud in six, 12 or 31 states; whether to “image” hard drives in voting machines or seize them; and whether to have that done by the national guard, DHS or the FBI.


    Trump appeared open to such advice. Late that Friday night, two of the sources said, he told Cipollone he would just make Powell special counsel. When Cipollone said Powell would need a security clearance, which he said was probably impossible, Trump said he would grant it.


    But after nearly all of Trump’s formal advisers shot down Powell’s suggestions, Trump did not sign the draft executive order. Instead, he instructed Powell to coordinate with his attorney, Rudy Giuliani, about seizing voting machines or appointing a special counsel.


    That posed a problem for Powell, who had been ejected from the Trump campaign’s legal team a few weeks beforehand at Giulaini’s behest.


    The group then tried again to cajole Trump into issuing some sort of executive order, since Trump still appeared intrigued. But when Trump summoned Giuliani, the former president’s attorney said the gambit would work only in the event of clear foreign interference.


    Powell, who had spent the previous weeks filing lawsuits alleging that Iran and China hacked into voting machines, sprang up and announced both to everyone in the room and a coterie of aides who had been dialled in on a conference call, that she had a file full of such evidence.


    Giuliani looked at the do ents but told Trump that Powell’s evidence was worthless, accusing her of producing one witness who was willing to testify about foreign election interference and around 10 who had simply signed affidavits saying they agreed.


    Top advisers including Cipollone and Lyons have told associates they did not think the exchange about making Powell special counsel was serious. But Trump continued for days to mull the special counsel and voting machine ideas.


    A spokesperson for Trump and a spokesperson for Cipollone did not respond to requests for comment. Powell, Giuliani and Lyons did not respond either. A spokesman for the select committee declined to comment on how the meeting might feature in its investigation.


    Powell told associates she believed Trump made a decision to authorize her to be a special counsel of some nature. The following day, she called the White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows, saying she needed office space and a security clearance as the new special counsel.


    Meadows did not refute Powell’s claim but told her he was working on logistics, and then called Giuliani to tell him Powell was trying to secure another audience with Trump. Giuliani told Meadows that Trump had barred Powell from the White House.


    But while Meadows and other advisers had refused to grant Powell a “hard pass” that would have allowed her unfettered access to the complex, she returned to the White House on Sunday and Monday with do ents on alleged Iranian threats to US election websites.


    Meadows had revoked Ziegler’s access to the system for permitting White House access but Powell was cleared on a temporary “appointment” pass by another aide. She was, however, blocked from meeting the former president.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...demic-00005033

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    To refresh, this was gist of Trump's "Options for 6 Jan" that Mark Meadows was showing to Republican members of Congress beforehand.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20210716135230if_/https://www.ingersolllockwood.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/voter-fraud.pdf















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    They already blessed it when they endorsed the coup by not convicting the nazi.
    no lie detected

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    They already blessed it when they endorsed the coup by not convicting the nazi.
    Not once, but twice.

    tee, hee.

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