***Official Donald Trump Tax Returns Thread***

[Spurtacular]

he threatened to withhold the funds if a prosecutor wasn't fired.

Unpacked.

I certainly wouldn't doubt Joe being in fishy , he's indeed a bull ter, but the fact that not a single lawsuit has been filed or case has been opened about that Ukraine situation makes me think it has no legs (or evidence).

Joe confessed to the misdeed. There's nothing to doubt.

Sorta weird considering this [Trump] administration certainly could have, and they promised to drain the swamp, tbh

*Ding

[Dirks_Finale]

I think most people already speculated that he was using whatever means possible to ensure he paid as little as possible to the federal government. He said as much 4 yrs ago.

What's revealing in all this is that he clearly is not not nearly as successful as he touts.

In any even, not a needle mover. What hurts him and may cost him the election, is his poor response to the virus as seniors are indiciating they feel like he left them to die. An unpardonable sin for many of them, and understandably so.

He's been suing for 4 years to hide this nothingburger

[Will Hunting]

I think most people already speculated that he was using whatever means possible to ensure he paid as little as possible to the federal government. He said as much 4 yrs ago.

What's revealing in all this is that he clearly is not not nearly as successful as he touts.

In any even, not a needle mover. What hurts him and may cost him the election, is his poor response to the virus as seniors are indiciating they feel like he left them to die. An unpardonable sin for many of them, and understandably so.

Him trying to take healthcare away from people with no replacement hurts him (and Republican senators for that matter) a lot too. That stunt they tried to pull in 2017 made Obamacare a lot more popular than it was before.

[Will Hunting]

the NYT isn't done leaking stuff, it's gonna be drip drip drip between now and election day. You're premature ejaculating by declaring there's no Russia connection.

sure enough, newest NYT article released at midnight yesterday...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...pprentice.html

Bayrock proposed to bring the Trump brand to hotels around the country and overseas, where Mr. Trump’s flamboyant taste for gold and glitz played well among wealthy foreigners with a caricatured notion of American success.

Years later, in a lawsuit deposition, Mr. Trump said that he discussed “numerous deals all over the world” with his new partners, and that “this was going to be Trump International Hotel and Tower Moscow, Kyiv, Istanbul, etc., Poland, Warsaw.”


At the same time, Mr. Trump asserted that because he was not actually the developer, he knew very little about what Bayrock was doing just two floors below his office. But internal Bayrock do ents reviewed by The Times show that the company, right from the start, went looking for financing from Russia to pay for its Trump-branded hotels.

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s Seventy-Three-Million-Dollar Tax Refund Is the Biggest Outrage of All


To avoid paying taxes, the President has exploited his many business failures, including losses of more than three hundred million dollars from his fifteen golf courses since 2000.

we’ve known for a long time that the President is a serial tax avoider.

Between 1984 and 2004, he used actual losses, loss write-downs from previous years, and other accounting dodges to pay virtually nothing in federal income taxes.

he did finally pay about seventy million dollars to the Internal Revenue Service. But then, in 2010, he demanded a full refund for those tax payments.

And the I.R.S. acceded to his request: it paid him $72.9 million, including interest.

Trump “could not believe how stupid the government was for giving someone like him that much money back.”

In the late nineteen-eighties and early nineteen-nineties,

Trump’s businesses, some of which he had greatly overpaid for when he bought them,

racked up more than a billion dollars in losses, and

four of them ended up filing for bankruptcy: three casinos in Atlantic City and his Plaza Hotel, in New York.

In 1995, as he emerged from this wreckage, he declared a tax loss of more than nine hundred million dollars,

which the I.R.S. allowed him to use in subsequent years as an offset against any profits his businesses made.

So even in years when the Trump Organization did well, his loss carryovers reduced his tax bill to zero.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/trumps-seventy-three-million-dollar-tax-refund-is-the-biggest-outrage-of-all

[pgardn]

Yea, I shat on the meme. Try to keep up, Lite.

so you don’t pay taxes either.
that’s cool.
don’t you dare let me catch you on the interstate highway I have paid for.

[pgardn]

Derp is a welfare queen.

[Bogie]

Derp is a welfare queen.

he’s admitted to being on disability.

But it was done in the most pathetic derp way possible. He claimed there wasn’t systematic racism because black and brown people get the same amount of disability as he does.

[LkrFan]

[hater]

Sad thing is the american oligarchs all do this sqme think Dump does.

Thats why america is a fake "democracy" its more a corporate for war oligarchy

[Will Hunting]

Sad thing is the american oligarchs all do this sqme think Dump does.

Thats why america is a fake "democracy" its more a corporate for war oligarchy

You'd like to think these tax returns would make Americans realize that we've got a huge problem with a tax system that allows the megarich to use huge fiat losses to offset actual tax liability and pay nothing, but not a chance that's a takeaway from this.

If Trump loses we'll just have the likes of Dianne Feinstein and Pelosi arguing to keep the same loopholes Trump uses in place, because they're from the same oligarch class that wants to avoid paying taxes.

[hater]

You'd like to think these tax returns would make Americans realize that we've got a huge problem with a tax system that allows the megarich to use huge fiat losses to offset actual tax liability and pay nothing, but not a chance that's a takeaway from this.

If Trump loses we'll just have the likes of Dianne Feinstein and Pelosi arguing to keep the same loopholes Trump uses in place, because they're from the same oligarch class that wants to avoid paying taxes.

Yup. This is just coming out for the debate. Remember NYT already said they have 2 more stories coming up. 2 debates after today.

Drip drip drip


If Trump loses this will be swept under the rug to avoid any scrutiny on other US oligarchs

[Will Hunting]

Yup. This is just coming out for the debate. Remember NYT already said they have 2 more stories coming up. 2 debates after today.

Drip drip drip


If Trump loses this will be swept under the rug to avoid any scrutiny on other US oligarchs

I don't think it's just 2 more stories.

NYT already released more details at midnight last night. They've been sitting on these tax returns for months, and I bet the plan is for a daily helping of Trump tax return news between now and election day, with the more salacious details being saved for mid-to-late October.

I also have a hunch they're going to release the do ents but they want to catch Trump in as many lies as they can before.

Our only hope is the establishment Dems being scared of progressive primaries in 2022. AOC has already scared the out of Schumer with a potential 2022 senate run, there needs to be 50 more primary threats just like that.

[hater]

I don't think it's just 2 more stories.

NYT already released more details at midnight last night. They've been sitting on these tax returns for months, and I bet the plan is for a daily helping of Trump tax return news between now and election day, with the more salacious details being saved for mid-to-late October.

I also have a hunch they're going to release the do ents but they want to catch Trump in as many lies as they can before.

Our only hope is the establishment Dems being scared of progressive primaries in 2022. AOC has already scared the out of Schumer with a potential 2022 senate run, there needs to be 50 more primary threats just like that.

Welm Im glad u acknowledge this being an organized operation by NYT and others

Sadly wether its succesful or not no other oligarchs will be affected and the tax scam will continue

[Will Hunting]

Welm Im glad u acknowledge this being an organized operation by NYT and others

Sadly wether its succesful or not no other oligarchs will be affected and the tax scam will continue

Is anyone saying this wasn't an organized operation? I don't think the NYT is disputing the fact it's been sitting on this for months and released it now to with Trump before the debate. I don't see anything wrong with that though, journalists sit on stories all the time so they can time the release.

If they got the full tax returns from 2000-2017 with all schedules and K-1s, there were probably over 100,000 pages they needed to go through. There's no way they could have gotten the tax returns recently and already be able to provide such a detailed overview.

EDIT - If these tax returns go public any time in the next few weeks, it gets a lot worse for Trump. You'll have hundreds of tax attorneys pouring through them hoping to be the guy that can put together a case for tax fraud.

[hater]

Is anyone saying this wasn't an organized operation? I don't think the NYT is disputing the fact it's been sitting on this for months and released it now to with Trump before the debate. I don't see anything wrong with that though, journalists sit on stories all the time so they can time the release.

If they got the full tax returns from 2000-2017 with all schedules and K-1s, there were probably over 100,000 pages they needed to go through. There's no way they could have gotten the tax returns recently and already be able to provide such a detailed overview.

EDIT - If these tax returns go public any time in the next few weeks, it gets a lot worse for Trump. You'll have hundreds of tax attorneys pouring through them hoping to be the guy that can put together a case for tax fraud.

Why wait for the debates tho? Are they not an impartial news organization?

[Will Hunting]

Why wait for the debates tho? Are they not an impartial news organization?

I don't see why waiting for the debates makes them more or less impartial. There's no journalistic duty to release a story as soon as humanly possible, journalists sit on stuff all the time. They wanted to release the story such that it was front and center in everyone's thoughts when they would be casting their votes.

The only reason this is now just a story to begin with is because Trump wanted to buck the trend of presidents releasing their tax returns and has spent the last 4 years fighting in court tooth and nail to prevent their release. He brought this on himself.

[RandomGuy]

I think most people already speculated that he was using whatever means possible to ensure he paid as little as possible to the federal government. He said as much 4 yrs ago.

What's revealing in all this is that he clearly is not not nearly as successful as he touts.

In any even, not a needle mover. What hurts him and may cost him the election, is his poor response to the virus as seniors are indiciating they feel like he left them to die. An unpardonable sin for many of them, and understandably so.

We knew he was not successful already.

What will be interesting though are the details of the loans he used to stay afloat.

No one, and I mean no one, wanted to loan him money, until Deutsche Bank wanted to grow at any cost, and took him on. The lax risk controls in that bank led them to some serious money laundering fines, and they became very cozy with Russian oligarchs for that reason, i.e. willingness to launder money.

There is some speculation that one or two of those oligarchs co-signed on some of those loan agreements.

Name the strongest criticism that Trump has leveled at Putin.

[Spurs Homer]

Why wait for the debates tho? Are they not an impartial news organization?

Of course they are. Four years ago they screwed the democrat out of the presidency for
(clutches pearlz) - EMAILS!

Now - the republican gets the same treatment.

Also- if REAL Biden corruption arises- I am sure they will expose that too.

Don’t even bring up the bogus Hunter Biden russian propaganda- I’m talking ACTUAL facts.

[RandomGuy]

Is anyone saying this wasn't an organized operation? I don't think the NYT is disputing the fact it's been sitting on this for months and released it now to with Trump before the debate. I don't see anything wrong with that though, journalists sit on stories all the time so they can time the release.

If they got the full tax returns from 2000-2017 with all schedules and K-1s, there were probably over 100,000 pages they needed to go through. There's no way they could have gotten the tax returns recently and already be able to provide such a detailed overview.

EDIT - If these tax returns go public any time in the next few weeks, it gets a lot worse for Trump. You'll have hundreds of tax attorneys pouring through them hoping to be the guy that can put together a case for tax fraud.

They put that online, Ima download it too. 100,000 pages pfft. Not a tax attorney, but I do know a thing or two about financial analysis and detecting fraud.

A fun new hobby.

[Will Hunting]

Of course they are. Four years ago they screwed the democrat out of the presidency for
(clutches pearlz) - EMAILS!

Now - the republican gets the same treatment.

Also- if REAL Biden corruption arises- I am sure they will expose that too.

Don’t even bring up the bogus Hunter Biden russian propaganda- I’m talking ACTUAL facts.

The fact that they're leaving no stone unturned trying to find a corruption scandal involving Biden and the best they can find is something involving his son (where a Republican-led senate investigation cleared his son of any wrongdoing) makes Biden look pretty impressive. I'd assume they'd be able to find something better.

Of course, all of the valid criticisms that can be lobbed at Biden (race relations, whoring himself to the Delaware credit card companies, etc.) are all things Republicans can't touch since they're even worse than he is on that front.

[Spurs Homer]

The fact that they're leaving no stone unturned trying to find a corruption scandal involving Biden and the best they can find is something involving his son (where a Republican-led senate investigation cleared his son of any wrongdoing) makes Biden look pretty impressive. I'd assume they'd be able to find something better.

Of course, all of the valid criticisms that can be lobbed at Biden (race relations, whoring himself to the Delaware credit card companies, etc.) are all things Republicans can't touch since they're even worse than he is on that front.

pretty much

also

on ANY attack Biden receives-

all he has to do is pick ANY recent Trump scandal and throw it right back at Trump.

[RandomGuy]

Wow. Well done.

[hater]

Wait so NYT is working for Democratic benefit and against Republican in the presidential election????

[Will Hunting]

Wait so NYT is working for Democratic benefit and against Republican in the presidential election????

They released an objective story about Donald Trump that would have been out of the news cycle years ago if Trump
had released his tax returns. Sorry this is so upsetting to you.