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    by the time we got to the election you were virtually rejecting all criticism of her
    Mostly because I couldn't get anyone to actually provide something substantive.

    "crooked Hillary" became one of those catch-phrases that the ill-informed tend to repeat as some sort of dogmatic given. When everybody starts assuming something is true, but no one can tell you why specifically and credibly, that's when I start asking a lot of questions.

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    I hear ler is going to install the red nuclear button in Air Force 1 toilet. So she can let it rip while taking a


    You were right. Wow.

    Any new predictions?

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    Mostly because I couldn't get anyone to actually provide something substantive.

    "crooked Hillary" became one of those catch-phrases that the ill-informed tend to repeat as some sort of dogmatic given. When everybody starts assuming something is true, but no one can tell you why specifically and credibly, that's when I start asking a lot of questions.
    Being on the board of directors of Wal-Mart and then her husband gives China most favored nation trade status looks pretty bad for her. Her deep ties to Wall Street were scary. Having a private server with classified information is really bad, what the does she know about computer security? She would have likely governed like the same center right invisible hand piece of her husband was. The Crooked Hillary name was more than fair, her.

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    Shut the up puto! You lost you pussy. You know why you lost? Because the people realized they couldn't accept another 8 years of the same bull . Lol at America making less wages more jobless and worse debt in recent memory. Lol at Obama care rising by 100%. Yeah you! lol Obama spending more time on vacation than any other president in history. Crying because you couldn't get 16 years of your cake.
    What cake are you talking about? You seem really angry. Did an illegal bang your wife? Was it a black man? I'm not surprised, trump supporters are cucks.

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    Mostly because I couldn't get anyone to actually provide something substantive.

    "crooked Hillary" became one of those catch-phrases that the ill-informed tend to repeat as some sort of dogmatic given. When everybody starts assuming something is true, but no one can tell you why specifically and credibly, that's when I start asking a lot of questions.
    No criticism was ever going to be "substantive" enough for you. Especially if you truly believe that Hillary isn't crooked.

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    You were right. Wow.

    Any new predictions?

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    No criticism was ever going to be "substantive" enough for you. Especially if you truly believe that Hillary isn't crooked.
    Again, wrong, on both counts.

    If you like, I can search through older posts, and provide examples of both. I wasn't really asking for much. I just didn't have the time to do the kind of research required.

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    Now THESE are some sweet tears. everyone of these people.

    Shattered dreams in Clintonworld

    Hillary Clinton's shocking loss in the presidential race rattled the political world and shattered the dreams of thousands of longtime Clinton aides and supporters who hoped to follow her to the White House.

    Perhaps more than any politician in American history, legions of politicos—from her husband’s administration to her second presidential campaign— had hitched on to the Clinton train.

    This week, the Clintonworld train went off the rails — this time, seemingly for good.

    In interviews with more than a dozen former Clinton aides, they expressed a grief and pain akin to losing a member of the family.

    “I think she'll continue on as a public figure but there was a finality to her concession speech that had me thinking back and realizing that most of my last 10 years had been somewhere in her orbit,” said one former aide. “I spent so long thinking about ‘What if?’ and ‘What happens if she becomes president?’ and I think there's a little part of you that dies when you realize it's not going to happen.”

    Another campaign aide, who had been in Clinton’s orbit since her 2008 campaign, summed it up this way: “It’s a difficult thing for a lot of us because there’s no longer a next time with her. That’s tough. She was weaved into our lives.”

    When Clinton lost the Democratic primary in 2008, those in her world mourned the loss for weeks and months and long after President Obama was sworn in. But because Clinton had a Phoenix-like narrative, they expected her to once again rise from the ashes.

    During her tenure as Secretary of State, they looked ahead to 2016. A superPAC called Ready for Hillary— comprised of Clinton diehards— even sprouted up in 2013 to help lure her into running for president again.

    And there was always the lingering thought that she would once again be “in it to win” even as she wouldn’t commit.

    This time, the loss blindsided Clintonites. Even through a bumpy primary against a relatively unknown challenger in Sen. Bernie Sanders and then an ugly and raucous general election against Donald Trump, they thought they had this. They filed into the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center with its enveloping glass structure on Tuesday night thinking they would finally break it.

    One former aide left a bottle of champagne chilling in the fridge on Tuesday. Another scoured real estate listings in Washington. They posted pictures on Facebook of themselves with a woman who became more than just their boss.

    “For many people Clintonworld is life,” said one former aide.

    “They don’t know anything else. There was a lot of measuring the drapes and not just now, it’s been that way for a long time,” another former aide said.

    Those in her orbit didn't just expect Clinton to win. They expected her to win big with the campaign telegraphing that states like Arizona were in play.

    “And people thought she was going to win with 300 electoral votes. Everyone was thinking about their own lives in another Clinton administration. It seemed like it was finally happening.”

    Weeks and months before the election, many aides, former staffers, surrogates and anyone who had ever worked for either Clinton had been lining up for jobs in what they thought would be a return of the Clintons to the White House.

    Since the summer, people have been pushing resumes and collecting names. They discussed who might be the chief of staff in a Clinton White House. (Jake Sullivan and Ron Klain got the most buzz.) And for the better part of October, as things were looking good for Clinton, campaign manager Robby Mook told allies that he would be interested in being chairman of the Democratic National Committee. Now, many expect he’ll go into the private sector.

    Some of her campaign aides had been promised jobs on the transition and PIC, the presidential inaugural committee.

    “Looking out from the Clinton bubble, the outcome always looked good for Hillary,” said one Clinton surrogate. “Inside that bubble, she’s infallible. Many in that bubble have also privately admitted being there was the ticket to a gilded future.”

    Now, just three days after the loss they never saw coming, they're still trying to figure out what happened. They tune into daily calls held by the campaign that have turned into post-mortem sessions.

    On Thursday, surrogates had a final call with campaign chairman John Podesta and communications director Jennifer Palmieri. On Friday, they called into a final “women's call” with speakers including Gloria Steinem.

    And they’re trying to mourn while sketching out other plans.

    Some say they will follow former Obama aides that left the political world for the tech world in Silicon Valley. Others say they'll stay in New York. Many say they'll leave Washington for good because as one said, “What's left? How can I stay?”

    “For me, I’m still with Hillary and my heart will always be with Hillary but now my head has to focus on other things,” said the aide who has been in Clinton’s orbit since the 2008 campaign. “But now it’s time to be selfish. So many people put so much on hold for so long because they believed in the greater good.

    “But that final chapter ended and it ended early,” the aide said.

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    idiots crying after elections isn't some new en led liberal phenomenon tbh ...


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    idiots crying after elections isn't some new en led liberal phenomenon tbh ...


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    sad prep boys in their khakis realizing their CEO dad has to pay 5% more taxes

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    wtf...undercover trumpster?

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    Fox was feeding him the debate questions:

    Then, the day before the first presidential debate, Mr. Trump was in a lather again, Ms. Kelly writes. He called Fox executives, saying he’d heard that her first question “was a very pointed question directed at him.” This disconcerted her, because it was true: It was about his history of using disparaging language about women.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/bo...?smid=tw-share

    Fox rigged the primary for Trump

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    Being on the board of directors of Wal-Mart and then her husband gives China most favored nation trade status looks pretty bad for her. Her deep ties to Wall Street were scary. Having a private server with classified information is really bad, what the does she know about computer security? She would have likely governed like the same center right invisible hand piece of her husband was. The Crooked Hillary name was more than fair, her.
    There you go. Something substantive. Baseline with the goods, as always.

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    There you go. Something substantive. Baseline with the goods, as always.
    Like this hasn't been said here over and over for the last year?

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    Like this hasn't been said here over and over for the last year?
    Being on the board of directors of Wal-Mart and then her husband gives China most favored nation trade status looks pretty bad for her.
    That I had never heard. Problem with it, though, is that proving quid pro quo on such a large topic is a bit hard to prove. Even your timeline said alot less after you boiled away the partisan rancor and innuendo than I was hoping for to prove some pretty serious stuff.

    That was sort of my point for asking the question. The whole thing to me looked like serious case of groupthink.

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    Gregg Popovich uncensored: Full transcript of thoughts on Donald Trump

    Gregg Popovich said Friday that he's sick to his stomach that Donald Trump was elected the 45th president of the United States.Popovich said that it reflects the bigotry of many Americans, something he said disgusts him.

    He said he's shocked that people have chosen a president who has overlooked women and minorities, and made fun of someone with a handicap.


    Below are his words in full.

    "Right now I'm just trying to formulate thoughts. It's too early. I'm just sick to my stomach. Not basically because the Republicans won or anything, but the disgusting tenure and tone and all of the comments that have been xenophobic, phobic, racist, misogynistic.

    "I live in that country where half of the people ignored all of that to elect someone. That's the scariest part of the whole thing to me. It's got nothing to do with the environment and Obamacare, and all of the other stuff. We live in a country that ignored all of those values that we would hold our kids accountable for. They'd be grounded for years if they acted and said the things that have been said in that campaign by Donald Trump.
    "I look at the Evangelicals and I wonder, those values don't mean anything to them? All of those values to me are more important than anybody's skill in business or anything else because it tells who we are, and how we want to live, and what kind of people we are. That's why I have great respect for people like Lindsey Graham and John McCain, John Kasich, who I disagree with on a lot of political things, but they had enough fiber and respect for humanity and tolerance for all groups to say what they said about the man.

    "That's what worries me. I get it, of course we want to be successful, we're all going to say that. Everybody wants to be successful, it's our country, we don't want it to go down the drain. But any reasonable person would come to that conclusion, but it does not take away the fact that he used that fear mongering, and all of the comments, from day one, the race bating with trying to make Barack Obama, our first black president, illegitimate. It leaves me wondering where I've been living, and with whom I'm living.

    "The fact that people can just gloss that over, start talking about the transition team, and we're all going to be kumbaya now and try to make the country good without talking about any of those things. And now we see that he's already backing off of immigration and Obamacare and other things, so was it a big fake, which makes you feel it's even more disgusting and cynical that somebody would use that to get the base that fired up. To get elected. And what gets lost in the process are African Americans, and Hispanics, and women, and the gay population, not to mention the eighth grade developmental stage exhibited by him when he made fun of the handicapped person. I mean, come on. That's what a seventh grade, eighth grade bully does. And he was elected president of the United States. We would have scolded our kids. We would have had discussions until we were blue in the face trying to get them to understand these things. He is in charge of our country. That's disgusting."

    A reporter then interrupted him.

    "I'm not done," Popovich said. "One could go on and on, we didn't make this stuff up. He's angry at the media because they reported what he said and how he acted. That's ironic to me. It makes no sense. So that's my real fear, and that's what gives me so much pause and makes me feel so badly that the country is willing to be that intolerant and not understand the empathy that's necessary to understand other group's situations. I'm a rich white guy, and I'm sick to my stomach thinking about it. I can't imagine being a Muslim right now, or a woman, or an African American, a Hispanic, a handicapped person. How disenfranchised they might feel. And for anyone in those groups that voted for him, it's just beyond my comprehension how they ignore all of that. My final conclusion is, my big fear is --- we are Rome."

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    Pop also benched Duncan during 6 and still thinks Porker is an NBA-caliber point guard. It's not a surprise that he has a ty take about the election, too.

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    I also like how liberals simultaneously have decided that he's not going to get anything done as president and that he's going to round all of them up tomorrow. And he's not even president yet

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    Comparing Romney supporters to Hillary supporters is funny. I like it.

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