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    Vucevic makes $24 million. Lauri Markkanen's scrub ass makes $17 million a year. Jarett Allen should fire his agent for only getting $20 million a year and no raises.
    Vuvevic and Markkanen both shoot the 3 ball. Poeltl can’t even make FTs. I’m one of the strongest Poodle supporters here, but he’s a $16-18M player.

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    Vuvevic and Markkanen both shoot the 3 ball. Poeltl can’t even make FTs. I’m one of the strongest Poodle supporters here, but he’s a $16-18M player.
    I really can't see him signing that cheap. He's too good defensively to settle so low. Feel like hometown discount would be $20 million starting with 6% raises (or whatever the non-Bird raise is), especially with a $130 million cap.

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    McDermott was then, and is now a terrible contract so I don’t understand the comparison.

    I think similar comps are less than Jarrett Allen recently received, less than what Jonas will receive this offseason and not far from what Steven Adams will get in the same free agency period.

    15mm or so…

    Right about McDermott being a bad comparison. The Spurs doubled McDermott’s pay because, like some other teams, they got caught up in the 3-pt shooting specialist fad, (which a number of teams may now regret.)

    The better comparison might be DJM. It’s hard to see the Spurs paying Poeltl more than DJ. Hard to justify. So, 4yrs and a total of 64M should be the most the Spurs should consider. Poeltl would be wise to take it.

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    I really can't see him signing that cheap. He's too good defensively to settle so low. Feel like hometown discount would be $20 million starting with 6% raises (or whatever the non-Bird raise is), especially with a $130 million cap.

    The hometown discount is him securing a max extension of 4yrs/50mm when available. Jak is exactly the type of
    player to take some money off the table given the relationship.

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    Right about McDermott being a bad comparison. The Spurs doubled McDermott’s pay because, like some other teams, they got caught up in the 3-pt shooting specialist fad, (which a number of teams may now regret.)

    The better comparison might be DJM. It’s hard to see the Spurs paying Poeltl more than DJ. Hard to justify. So, 4yrs and a total of 64M should be the most the Spurs should consider. Poeltl would be wise to take it.
    This is not how I equate relative value. You need to use current comps and if they aren’t accurate comps make adjustments. Jak’s market will never be dictated by a guards deal 4 years ago and DJM’s deal was complicated by him coming off a serious injury making it even less useful.

    I do agree with McD’s assessment. Never understood that as few teams had more than the MLE to offer.
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    I'd imagine Poetl might be able to pull a deal starting at $25 million for the first season, something like 4 years, $110 million when you factor in 6% raises. 4 years, $50 million would be selling himself way short of his market value. There is no way he's worth less than McDermott.
    He'll likely fall either toward the high end of Williams, Carter Jr., Holmes, Gafford ($10-14M) or in between them and Capela, Allen, Adams, Valanciunas ($16-20M) and all of which signed within' the past 2 years.

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    I got to see the Spurs come back from the most crushing Finals loss imaginable to climb that mountain right back again the next year and completely pick their rival apart in one of the nastiest revenge series of all time. And then I got to see the Suns think they were doing the same with their 64 win season only to lay an egg and get booed off their home floor in a Game 7.

    Lololololololol


    Ok but just to be clear Dallas too.

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    The hometown discount is him securing a max extension of 4yrs/50mm when available. Jak is exactly the type of
    player to take some money off the table given the relationship.
    4 years, $50 million is lunacy, he's not signing for that pittance.

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    4 years, $50 million is lunacy, he's not signing for that pittance.
    I agree he should test free agency, but there is a chance he entertains that long term deal ahead of next year if offered.

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    I agree he should test free agency, but there is a chance he entertains that long term deal ahead of next year if offered.
    He could go play on a le contender or in a better market for that kind money, 4yr/$50 million would put his base salary maybe $1 million over MLE. Don't know why people expect athletes to take huge paycuts under their market value all the time.

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    He could go play on a le contender or in a better market for that kind money, 4yr/$50 million would put his base salary maybe $1 million over MLE. Don't know why people expect athletes to take huge paycuts under their market value all the time.
    Agreed he could which is why I think 15mm or so is a likely price that clears the market. Jak stays between SA and his hometown in Austria. Not sure a bigger market is important to him. Probably the opposite. Contenders are less likely to pay up for him. Also, remember each year only a handful of teams these days have cap beyond the MLE.

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    Any talk of jak signing a 4/50 is absolutely ing ridiculous. There's zero chance of it being that low.

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    If anyone believes Jak is signing for 12.5 per year I urge them to put their money where their mouth is cause that's a bet I'll easily take.

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    If anyone believes Jak is signing for 12.5 per year I urge them to put their money where their mouth is cause that's a bet I'll easily take.
    People are probably just trying to find a way for him to stay. Reality is that it’s probably time to move on. Poeltl has hit his peak but certainly has a ton of value around the league.

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