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I've always said there was a creator....always. I said I didn't buy into the Bible.....get it right!
Read this.....
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gary.h..../anthropic.htm
Moderators aren't supposed to meltdown like you are, Avante.
I've always said there was a creator....always. I said I didn't buy into the Bible.....get it right!
Read this.....
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gary.h..../anthropic.htm
No. Non-scientists who misinterpret science to support their biases, claim that science proved the existence of God.
Yes. I have probably seen far more pseudo-scientific arguments for God's existence than you have, judging from you lapping up all this bull without question.You have any idea how much of that stuff is out there.
No, I'll ask you a more important question: Why do the vast majority of scientists disagree with intelligent design?Why did Einstein believe in a creator?
Anwer the question?
You just backslid into another logical fallacy. You simply cannot help yourself.
Those tons of things have already been refuted. I hope you don't think that I will take you link spamming ancient, debunked arguments seriously.Tons and tons of things showing without a masterplan we have nothing. You do know this...right?
I'm not reading your link spams. Sorry, but actually make an argument in your own words, instead of googling and posting links to articles you haven't read.
Little man, tell me why did Einstein believe in a creator....ANSWER THE ING QUESTION?
And when was this debunked? Show me.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gary.h..../anthropic.htm
When was this debunked? Show me.
http://www.frame-poythress.org/what-...-the-universe/
Jesus Christ, this dumb got will not let this logical fallacy go. Okay, here you go:
"It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I feel also not able to imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere. My views are near those of Spinoza: admiration for the beauty of and belief in the logical simplicity of the order which we can grasp humbly and only imperfectly. I believe that we have to content ourselves with our imperfect knowledge and understanding and treat values and moral obligations as a purely human problem—the most important of all human problems."
and
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.p...opic_principle
Here you go. I suggest you read up on the other side of the argument before unquestioningly lapping up whatever bull Creationists feed you.
Does this mean that people who thought that Earth was plane (pretty much everybody back then) were right?
If Avante is going to make fallacious appeals to scientists as proof of God's existence, he should start with a scientist who actually believed in God, not Albert Einstein.
Hmmmmm?
Einstein
Your question [about God] is the most difficult in the world. It is not a question I can answer simply with yes or no. I am not an Atheist. I do not know if I can define myself as a Pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. May I not reply with a parable? The human mind, no matter how highly trained, cannot grasp the universe. We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books, a mysterious order, which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects. That, it seems to me, is the at ude of the human mind, even the greatest and most cultured, toward God. We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's Pantheism. I admire even more his contributions to modern thought. Spinoza is the greatest of modern philosophers, because he is the first philosopher who deals with the soul and the body as one, not as two separate things.[19]
That is how an intelligent person approachs this. Not like some dummy like you. He admits....the mysterious force. He admits to not being an atheis. He sees things just like I dol.....something (mystrious force) created all this.
Last edited by Avante; 06-27-2013 at 03:16 AM.
Now you are backtracking, got. None of the quotes you or I posted support your claim that Einstein believed in God. Furthermore, NONE OF THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHERHER GOD ACTUALLY EXISTS OR NOT. get your head out of your ass.
Scientists believe in god? no, they don't believe in no ing thing. They just make up pseudo-scientific bull s to deceive tax-payers pretty much the same way the politicians do, they probably don't even believe their own s tbh. If they truly believe in God they would've honestly admitted their incapability, for the fear of getting punished by God or whatsoever, instead of pretending to know everything and ranking home money and honors w/o contributing a damn thing to the society. Those people are soulless and faithless
I don't believe in God. I 've said that many times. I said I believe in a creator, I just use God because it's easier.
Now disprove the existence of a creator something Einstein did believe in. That's why he wasn't an atheist.
So you believe all this just happened by chance......prove that.
Bull- ing- . All you have talked about was how many people believed in "God," but now you are talking about how you just believe in a "creator"?
Shifting the burden of proof. You are making the positive claim that a creator exists, so you provide the evidence. I don't have to disprove a claim that hasn't been proven in the first place.Now disprove the existence of a creator
Strawman. You just ignore whatever I post. You are so stubborn and irrational that it's unbelievable.So you believe all this just happened by chance......prove that.
I don't believe the existence of a man levitating in the sky but I do believe in God, who in my dictionary has the same meaning as justice, rightfulness and sanc y. I just aspire to being a good person and the God, or the "Goddess" in my mind is exactly the person I wanna be, a role model to me. I believe that everyone has such a distinct God or Goddess in their mind, which you can't find a copy of in the real life nor in someone else's mind. The god or goddess only belongs to yourself, and it is unique
I told you many times my stance on this. What you forgot? I assumed you understood what I was actually talking about since we've done this before. I should have known your dumbass had forgotten.
Look idiot you can no more a prove ing thing than me or anyone else. Something did create all this only a total moron like you couldn't see this. Idiot, it's too fine tuned to be by chance even a child can see that. Go ahead and live in your fantasy world ya ing freak I'll go with what everyone else figrued out long ago.
It must hurt being stupid.
Dude, there is a reason there are very few who agree with you. Ya see must people aren't re ed.
Don't other responding moron, I 'm done with your stupidity for now. Next time I'm bored...you'll do, we all need a laugh now and then.
Oh yeah, I don't read 95% of your crap, it makes no sense.
at that dyslexic mess of a post filled with logical fallacies and strawmen. Avante is an embarrassment. 60+ years on this earth, yet he has somehow remained this stupid.
This dude would be annihilated in any debate with an atheist or a Christian, because both sides can point out how flawed his reasoning is with no difficulty.
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This dude would be annihilated in any debate with an atheist or a Christian, because both sides can point out how flawed his reasoning is with no difficulty.
I just got my ass kicked.....again. I know this didn't all happen by chance I just like to get my ass kicked.
Yes, you kicked my ass by posting irrelevant information and by attacking an argument that I never made.
Until you provide evidence that supports your claim that a creator exists, the default position is non-belief. That's it and that's all.
Now that I have you up againt the ropes one eye shut with blood dripping from everywhere.
BOOM..the knock out punch.
This is what most people believe dummy.
the "creator" can be aliens from another planet who spread the seeds of life on the earth, or the emergence of life was completely coincidence that a flash of lightning or the eruption of a volcano brought a mass of carbohydrate to life? scientists tend to beat the latter down our throats but you don't have to always swallow whatever the "scientists" feed you. the Creator might exist but not necessarily in the form of a human or a god, it might just be a comet or asteroid that hit the earth several million years ago imho
Still waiting for Avante to prove that God exists, not talk about how many people believe in God.He just can't understand the difference. So sad.
Ok there is no God or a creator. This all happened by chance...right?Still waiting for Avante to prove that God exists, not talk about how many people believe in God.
You've talked me into it. Yep, no God or creator, so tell me how did this all come about? Go into detail, I am looking for your opinion. Curious about what you actually believe.
Classic bifurcation fallacy.... how many is that now in this thread, redzero?
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