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    baseline bum How far are you in P5?

    My new year's resolution is to actually play ing games and finishing them.

    Key games I haven't even started yet:

    Witcher 3
    Nier Automata
    Horizon Zero Dawm

    Games played but not finished:

    Persona 5
    Uncharted 4
    Kindom Hearts 2.8

    It's unbelieable. I keep buying full retail games and I just let it collect dust. Playing games has become like being in the right mood and day to watch porn.

    I gotta snap out of that . I'm much more productive and less stressed out when I'm playing video games. 2016-2017 Were such years.

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    Can't wait for monster Hunter to come out tbh

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    baseline bum How far are you in P5?

    My new year's resolution is to actually play ing games and finishing them.

    Key games I haven't even started yet:

    Witcher 3
    Nier Automata
    Horizon Zero Dawm

    Games played but not finished:

    Persona 5
    Uncharted 4
    Kindom Hearts 2.8

    It's unbelieable. I keep buying full retail games and I just let it collect dust. Playing games has become like being in the right mood and day to watch porn.

    I gotta snap out of that . I'm much more productive and less stressed out when I'm playing video games. 2016-2017 Were such years.
    I beat Persona 5 yesterday. It's amazing.

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    I beat Persona 5 yesterday. It's amazing.
    To 100 percent or just story?

    How long? Does the 100 hours of play time hold up?

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    To 100 percent or just story?

    How long? Does the 100 hours of play time hold up?
    It took me 160 hours and 100% is almost impossible on a first playthrough. The game is rock solid throughout, and probably the best turn based RPG since Fallout 2.

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    It took me 160 hours and 100% is almost impossible on a first playthrough. The game is rock solid throughout, and probably the best turn based RPG since Fallout 2.
    Sounds good.

    I think I'll go with P5 first than Witcher 3 since I already started on P5 and I'm sort of familiar with the controls. Plus I feel like playing an upbeat game first.

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    me, I paid $250 for a Xeon because I figured it would last me.

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    So Intel's CEO sold off a ton of his shares on November 29th. In fact, as many as he legally could under his contract.

    https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/...-of-stock.aspx
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    On the plus side, this bug leemajors posted about will really kill performance for virtual machines. Which means the VMProtect DRM is about to make AC Origins run slow as . This hardware bug might end up killing VMProtect because there is no way AC Origins could take another 30% hit to cpu performance considering how ridiculously cpu bound it already is before this security patch comes out. Ubisoft is going to have to dump VMProtect or it will get some unbelievably bad press and every game they release here on out will get murdered in the Steam reviews. So you might get your wish of a cracked AC Origins soon, DJR210, as vanilla Denuvo hasn't been a problem to crack for months.

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    On the plus side, this bug leemajors posted about will really kill performance for virtual machines. Which means the VMProtect DRM is about to make AC Origins run slow as . This hardware bug might end up killing VMProtect because there is no way AC Origins could take another 30% hit to cpu performance considering how ridiculously cpu bound it already is before this security patch comes out. Ubisoft is going to have to dump VMProtect or it will get some unbelievably bad press and every game they release here on out will get murdered in the Steam reviews. So you might get your wish of a cracked AC Origins soon, DJR210, as vanilla Denuvo hasn't been a problem to crack for months.
    My friend who is a network admin said this will really cloud service providers in addition to people running VMs.

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    On the plus side, this bug leemajors posted about will really kill performance for virtual machines. Which means the VMProtect DRM is about to make AC Origins run slow as . This hardware bug might end up killing VMProtect because there is no way AC Origins could take another 30% hit to cpu performance considering how ridiculously cpu bound it already is before this security patch comes out. Ubisoft is going to have to dump VMProtect or it will get some unbelievably bad press and every game they release here on out will get murdered in the Steam reviews. So you might get your wish of a cracked AC Origins soon, DJR210, as vanilla Denuvo hasn't been a problem to crack for months.
    I don't think VM Protect will have an issue with this, and potentially Microsoft can have an isolated game mode just for this (with specially signed executables).

    We'll see where this goes, tbh... the bug seems to be a privilege escalation bug with the branch predictor, which is one of the strongest advantages Intel has over AMD..

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    I don't think VM Protect will have an issue with this, and potentially Microsoft can have an isolated game mode just for this (with specially signed executables).

    We'll see where this goes, tbh... the bug seems to be a privilege escalation bug with the branch predictor, which is one of the strongest advantages Intel has over AMD..
    So it only affects programs that have a for loop you're saying?

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    RE7 has high replay value. Only complaint is the load time from start screen to the game. Madhouse difficulty is really tough.

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    So it only affects programs that have a for loop you're saying?
    Nah, it affects everything, but the exploit explicitly seems to allow reads from protected memory areas (a twist on rowhammer, defeating KASLR). At least that's what you can gather from what's been published.

    With that in mind, the slowdown comes from context switching. Anything with a hypervisor will get hit the hardest (thus cloud computing being an issue, plus in that arena, you MUST guarantee data isolation).

    VMProtect does not run on a hypervisor, it's more of a JIT/Interpreter hybrid used to obfuscate. Microsoft can simply allow to run certain processes with the 'bug' (but at full speed) if their code signature allows the feature.

    The odds of a game publisher trying to exploit the bug is probably pretty low on a desktop computer, and even if they try, Microsoft can revoke the signature.

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    So it only affects programs that have a for loop you're saying?
    Missed the for loop thing... basically, any branch. What Intel does (and AMD does not and suffers for it) is that it has a multi-level branch predictor. When it's not sure or hasn't built enough history of a branch, it can actually execute both sides of the branch (taken/not taken). Then once the branch is resolved, it selects the taken route and nukes the not taken route. This is a very simplistic explanation, but at a high level, it's more of less like that. The thing with this design is that if one of the sides of the branch returns to user mode but not the other side, the actual switch to user mode can't happen until the branch is resolved. And apparently that's part of the bug/issue. The other part is that processes (used to) share the kernel segment TLBs with user processes, which could hint the userland code on kernel locations/memory areas. A combo of the two could defeat KASLR every time.

    The fix itself involves flushing and replacing the TLBs such that user processes never see kernel segment entries. The cost of that is pretty high on context switches.

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    Missed the for loop thing... basically, any branch.
    I was making a joke man.


    What Intel does (and AMD does not and suffers for it) is that it has a multi-level branch predictor. When it's not sure or hasn't built enough history of a branch, it can actually execute both sides of the branch (taken/not taken). Then once the branch is resolved, it selects the taken route and nukes the not taken route. This is a very simplistic explanation, but at a high level, it's more of less like that. The thing with this design is that if one of the sides of the branch returns to user mode but not the other side, the actual switch to user mode can't happen until the branch is resolved. And apparently that's part of the bug/issue. The other part is that processes (used to) share the kernel segment TLBs with user processes, which could hint the userland code on kernel locations/memory areas. A combo of the two could defeat KASLR every time.

    The fix itself involves flushing and replacing the TLBs such that user processes never see kernel segment entries. The cost of that is pretty high on context switches.
    Thanks for the detailed explanation.

    VMProtect does not run on a hypervisor, it's more of a JIT/Interpreter hybrid used to obfuscate. Microsoft can simply allow to run certain processes with the 'bug' (but at full speed) if their code signature allows the feature.
    So not gonna help us who get our games from the CODEX and Fitgirl sales?

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    So not gonna help us who get our games from the CODEX and Fitgirl sales?
    It's hard to know until we know more about how Microsoft patches the issue. I doubt they just want to drop a 30% in performance across the board. Linux doesn't really have a choice, but Microsoft might, at least until new hardware with the issue fixed on the silicon becomes more widespread.

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    I just started Persona 4 Golden. I know this is supposed to be an amazing game, but it's going to be hard for it to get out from under Persona 5's huge shadow for me I think. Though I suppose I'm glad I played 5 first since there is a huge spoiler in the plot of Persona 5 you'd already know if you played Persona 4 first.

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    Sleeping Dogs on the One. Downloaded it when it was free on Gold last summer and just got around to playing it. Fun game and a great beat 'em up throwback like The Warriors on PS2 was a decade or so ago.

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    Just finished Lost Legacy. Decent game, but doesn't do anything new if you've already played the Uncharted series. Basically a cut and paste of Uncharted 4 as far as gameplay is concerned.

    Going to start Persona 5 next. I was hesitant to get this game since I've never played the series before, and honesty know nothing about it. I love old school turn based RPGs though, so I couldn't resist.

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    Just finished Lost Legacy. Decent game, but doesn't do anything new if you've already played the Uncharted series. Basically a cut and paste of Uncharted 4 as far as gameplay is concerned.

    Going to start Persona 5 next. I was hesitant to get this game since I've never played the series before, and honesty know nothing about it. I love old school turn based RPGs though, so I couldn't resist.
    The second I saw this intro screen I knew Persona 5 was going to be amazing:



    And it is. Make sure to read the tutorials that pop up or you'll be completely lost on how to do demon negotiations to get new personas. Best turn based RPG since Fallout 2 IMO. The combat and dungeon crawling is very old school and the social sim aspect is surprisingly good too. The soundtrack is killer.

    Also, if you want to go with the canon name of the main character, it's Ren Amamiya. In the manga the main character's name is Akira Kurusu (it's the same guy), but in the upcoming anime and Persona 5 Dancing Star Night it's Ren Amamiya. Or you could just name him whatever in the you want.

    I thought about getting Uncharted Lost Legacy when it was $20 but passed since I can't imagine when I'd play it given how many PS4, PC, PS3, and PS TV games I have in my backlog. Without Nate I'm going to pass until maybe I see it for $5 used from Redbox or something.
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    Speaking of Persona 5, anyone see this ad for Persona 5 Dancing Star Night? I'll probably buy this just to get more of the storyline with these characters.

    WARNING: Persona 5 spoilers if you click this link to the Persona 5 Dancing Star Night ad
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VueiR2a_lDY

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    I thought about getting Uncharted Lost Legacy when it was $20 but passed since I can't imagine when I'd play it given how many PS4, PC, PS3, and PS TV games I have in my backlog. Without Nate I'm going to pass until maybe I see it for $5 used from Redbox or something.
    I honestly didn't miss Nate all that much. Chloe was a strong enough character to carry the game. But like I said, the gameplay was identical. I didn't expect them to reinvent the entire game for what was essentially (a fairly long) expansion. But I thought they'd at least maybe change some of the hand to hand mechanics or something considering you're playing as a woman.

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    I am trying to figure out if i should buy nier or persona 5...

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