Young: sources tell @ExpressNews that Kawhi Leonard wants to be traded from Spurs

[DPG21920]

Kawhi is a Spur for one more year--a year in which we all know will net you nothing in the end. If you think the Lakers are actually dealing for Lillard with that package then you disappoint me. Like the poster above originally said, it's just gamesmanship. You desperately need Kawhi Leonard, whereas we could take him or leave him...especially with the plethora of FA's available in 2019.

Enjoy your final year with him before he moves on to another organization that doesn't alienate its superstars.

Didn’t alienate Shaq? Didn’t Kobe demand a trade because he was alienated? I mean, if LA had to trade Shaq, then you can’t dog SA for having to trade Kawhi. Shaq >>Kawhi

[Mugen]

Kawhi is a Spur for one more year--a year in which we all know will net you nothing in the end. If you think the Lakers are actually dealing for Lillard with that package then you disappoint me. Like the poster above originally said, it's just gamesmanship. You desperately need Kawhi Leonard, whereas we could take him or leave him...especially with the plethora of FA's available in 2019.

Enjoy your final year with him before he moves on to another organization that doesn't alienate its superstars.

Agree re thinking the Lakers will trade for Lillard. It's like Lakerfan thinking that LeBron came to LA to ring chase, pretty silly on both fronts

[LkrFan]

1) Thinking POR would trade Dame for anything less than Ingram/Kuz/Hart + picks like SA is asking for
2) at using those same assets for Dame over Kawhi

But hey, way to call SA’s bluff by using those same assets to land a far inferior player to Kawhi when you also burned a #2 pick on Lonzo and also just signed Rondo Great use of assets!

Not disagreeing with you per se, but we know what Dame IS right now because he played this season. We don't know what Kiwi IS right now because he hasn't played compe ively more than 9 games all year. We only know what he WAS before he got injured. Is he STILL the same player? If so, how would the Lakers - or any other team contemplating trading for him - know what he is until they SEE what he is right now?

So until teams can see him workout in person, Dame is worth the same assets as Kiwi is. Maybe Uncle Fester can post a YouTube vid?

[DPG21920]

Also, lol at LA not needing Kawhi. LA has missed the playoffs for 5 years and has Lebron for 3 functionally. They aren’t doing squat this year with hoarding cap space for next year (assuming they aren’t bluffing about Dame which would be amazing).

They have one star and just lost their best young player (Randle) for nothing on the heels of dumping their previous number 2 pick for nothing (Russell). They need a lot more than one star with Lebron to actually do anything and if you think all stars are equal and going from Kawhi to Jimmy Butler is no big deal you will be sorely disappointed and quickly back to arguing Kobe>Lebron in no time.

[djohn2oo8]

Agree re thinking the Lakers will trade for Lillard. It's like Lakerfan thinking that LeBron came to LA to ring chase, pretty silly on both fronts

[djohn2oo8]

Also, lol at LA not needing Kawhi. LA has missed the playoffs for 5 years and has Lebron for 3 functionally. They aren’t doing squat this year with hoarding cap space for next year (assuming they aren’t bluffing about Dame which would be amazing).

They have one star and just lost their best young player (Randle) for nothing on the heels of dumping their previous number 2 pick for nothing (Russell). They need a lot more than one star with Lebron to actually do anything and if you think all stars are equal and going from Kawhi to Jimmy Butler is no big deal you will be sorely disappointed and quickly back to arguing Kobe>Lebron in no time.

CP3 and PG both passed up joining LA. What guarantee they are players in next year's FA? No one seems to be jumping at joining LeBron.

[Mugen]

I've even warmed up to the idea of Kawhi > Lakers.

LeBron, Uncle Dennis, Lavar, Magic, Jeanie...all on the same team with Luke running the show. That'd be the best entertainment to hit the league in a long time

[DPG21920]

Not disagreeing with you per se, but we know what Dame IS right now because he played this season. We don't know what Kiwi IS right now because he hasn't played compe ively more than 9 games all year. We only know what he WAS before he got injured. Is he STILL the same player? If so, how would the Lakers - or any other team contemplating trading for him - know what he is until they SEE what he is right now?

So until teams can see him workout in person, Dame is worth the same assets as Kiwi is. Maybe Uncle Fester can post a YouTube vid?

I can see that logic; perfectly understandable but everyone knows Kawhi isn’t injured. There is a reason Magic and Co have gone to great lengths to tamper for him

But still, even if you believe that, even though you know Dame is healthy, you also know his ceiling and he’s worse than Kyrie and is that enough? Kawhi’s upside is still so much higher than Dames that IMO he’s one of the only true stars outside of Harden, AD, KD and Curry (which aren’t currently available) that can truly help LA win.

[Mugen]

CP3 and PG both passed up joining LA. What guarantee they are players in next year's FA? No one seems to be jumping at joining LeBron.

You telling me young stars don't want to come to LA to get curbstomped by the Warriors in the 2nd round while the LA media gives them all the blame?

[DPG21920]

You telling me young stars don't want to come to LA to get curbstomped by the Warriors in the 2nd round while the LA media gives them all the blame?

Ask Kevin Love what it’s like being an all-star level player alongside Bron and getting crapped on all the time . Ask Kyrie, oh wait...he left.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I know that . Why do you think I pointed out the empty threat. SA isn’t dum, that posturing from LA is stupid because SA is praying they do that

It's not about being "dumb," it's about having limited-to-no options. We all recognize SA is a well-run organization, but the fact remains they are saddled with a disgruntled player who has cut your bargaining leverage, and continues to do so with his lingering physical and mental issues which will give teams cause for concern.

As for pointing out the empty threat (which I agree it is), I find it interesting your last several posts have dealt with potential Lillard trade scenarios based solely off of a "I'm a happy camper tweet."

You're my dude Deep, but you gotta know when you're short-stacked at the table

[Mugen]

With or without Kawhi, unless Bron can convince that pizza faced got in the Bay to leave the Warriors, the Spurs and Lakers are winning the same amount of championships for the rest of his career

Maybe that used up skank Jeanie and T-Cells will let Jimbo get control back after they strike out these next 3 years

[BackHome]

You know when the first happened Pop was probably off guard and probably went through a whole bunch of emotions. People jumped on him when he made that comment “Ask Kawhi Group” but now we are starting to see the true picture of how ed up his group really is I mean they all mentally unstable.

I think though Pop and RC have turned the corner and I see them laughing and drinking wine and crank calling Magic just for fun. They ing with his agent on the phone probably laughing their ass to their pleas of trade Kawhi to Flakers pleaseee. Lol. At this point Pop don’t give a he is going to do what’s best for the franchise so see ya next year in Spurs gear K-Y

[Mr. Body]

Also, lol at LA not needing Kawhi. LA has missed the playoffs for 5 years and has Lebron for 3 functionally. They aren’t doing squat this year with hoarding cap space for next year (assuming they aren’t bluffing about Dame which would be amazing).

They have one star and just lost their best young player (Randle) for nothing on the heels of dumping their previous number 2 pick for nothing (Russell). They need a lot more than one star with Lebron to actually do anything and if you think all stars are equal and going from Kawhi to Jimmy Butler is no big deal you will be sorely disappointed and quickly back to arguing Kobe>Lebron in no time.

Yeah. LeBron just guarantees a treadmill team for the Lakers. Butler doesn't move them anywhere, guess a false star. Lillard is better but not enough. I don't see a FO that knows how to build a team.

[lmbebo]

Kawhi is a Spur for one more year--a year in which we all know will net you nothing in the end. If you think the Lakers are actually dealing for Lillard with that package then you disappoint me. Like the poster above originally said, it's just gamesmanship. You desperately need Kawhi Leonard, whereas we could take him or leave him...especially with the plethora of FA's available in 2019.

Enjoy your final year with him before he moves on to another organization that doesn't alienate its superstars.

I wouldn't say the spurs alienate its superstars at all .... far from it ...

This is all about Uncle Dennis and Kawhi's camp. Every report out there now has it the spurs bending over backwards to deal with Kawhi and acquiesce to his camp's demands...

[Dre_7]

Kawhi is a Spur for one more year--a year in which we all know will net you nothing in the end. If you think the Lakers are actually dealing for Lillard with that package then you disappoint me. Like the poster above originally said, it's just gamesmanship. You desperately need Kawhi Leonard, whereas we could take him or leave him...especially with the plethora of FA's available in 2019.

Enjoy your final year with him before he moves on to another organization that doesn't alienate its superstars.

Then why do Laker fans keep talking about how the Spurs have to make a deal or they get nothing? Since when do Laker fans care what the Spurs get? Shouldn't you want them to get nothing? Just wait til next year if you are so confident you will get Kawhi. It will be better for you that way anyways. Unless, you are worried you won't actually get him. Then I could see why you would want him now. Interesting, really.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Both Jalen Rose and Chris Carter confirmed the report to be 100% true and they’ve known about it for a long time. Carter stated that he was shocked that it didn’t come out earlier.

[K...]

Ok guys it's a done deal, kathi is being sent to California but the spurs are having trouble finding a partner that fits kathis needs, that is an adult day care with a basketball team and an autism specialist.

[DPG21920]

It's not about being "dumb," it's about having limited-to-no options. We all recognize SA is a well-run organization, but the fact remains they are saddled with a disgruntled player who has cut your bargaining leverage, and continues to do so with his lingering physical and mental issues which will give teams cause for concern.

As for pointing out the empty threat (which I agree it is), I find it interesting your last several posts have dealt with potential Lillard trade scenarios based solely off of a "I'm a happy camper tweet."

You're my dude Deep, but you gotta know when you're short-stacked at the table

Sure, but so is Kawhi. You also just saw what PG said about the Lakers right? You see the reports coming out fro Kawhi’s camp, right? LA is the one alienating stars right now.

When you tell a star like PG or a superstar like Kawhi “hey, I know you want to come her, but you aren’t worth Lonzo/Ingram/Kuz and bad picks” you alienate them.

This is not hearsay; PG literally said this is what happened. Kawhi’s camp is already leaking that is what is happening. LA is stupid for not taking a SA seriously and dumping all the young guys to them. Like, really stupid.

[spursistan]

CP3 and PG both passed up joining LA. What guarantee they are players in next year's FA? No one seems to be jumping at joining LeBron.

It is hilarious how Lakers fans are still acting Lebron joining them isn't anything but him choosing his retirement home. .

If Lebron cared about winning the Kawhi trade would have happened a week ago and all of their overrated kids would have been shipped out of town by now..

[BillMc]

Holy crap Mic e Beadle just went off

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24014739

yeah! Should be first woman president.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Also, lol at LA not needing Kawhi. LA has missed the playoffs for 5 years and has Lebron for 3 functionally. They aren’t doing squat this year with hoarding cap space for next year (assuming they aren’t bluffing about Dame which would be amazing).

They have one star and just lost their best young player (Randle) for nothing on the heels of dumping their previous number 2 pick for nothing (Russell). They need a lot more than one star with Lebron to actually do anything and if you think all stars are equal and going from Kawhi to Jimmy Butler is no big deal you will be sorely disappointed and quickly back to arguing Kobe>Lebron in no time.

Stop making this about the Lakers instead of your own teams failures. You had a Top-5 player in a small market and your franchise chose to publicly bash him and alienate him. Now you will get pennies on the dollar (if anything at all) and dissuade any future superstar from wanting to join such an ungrateful franchise. We'll be contenders in 2019, the whole world knows it, and so do you. We all know where San Antonio will be then.

[cd98]

Wright has exposed Dennis and Co. This is going to get ugly for them. A guy getting paid $18 million to sit out the year because he is "injured" hiding from the team paying $18 million going to check on his injury. Pathetic.

[DPG21920]

Stop making this about the Lakers instead of your own teams failures. You had a Top-5 player in a small market and your franchise chose to publicly bash him and alienate him. Now you will get pennies on the dollar (if anything at all) and dissuade any future superstar from wanting to join such an ungrateful franchise. We'll be contenders in 2019, the whole world knows it, and so do you. We all know where San Antonio will be then.

*Also - small edit: Spurs still HAVE a top 5 player. It’s not past-tense yet.

[Extra Stout]

This could be fun from here on out. The Spurs are screwed as far as winning is concerned, but they can with Kawhi as much as possible now. To get his $20 million, he has to show up, but this time without the usual Spurs cocoon. Let him face a San Antonio media day after day no longer docile and deferential, but aching for a feeding frenzy to rip him apart.

I don’t think his derp ass can handle the hostility from teammates, the media, and fans. He’ll have an autistic panic attack and ghost the team again. Then after 30 days, boom! His NBA career is effectively over, unless and until he and Unca Dennis come begging on hands and knees.