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which premise doesn't work?
do you accept that driving drunk elevates risk of accidents?
do you accept that being unvaccinated elevates the risk of contracting covid?
we already knew you were incapable of holding a conversation
which premise doesn't work?
do you accept that driving drunk elevates risk of accidents?
do you accept that being unvaccinated elevates the risk of contracting covid?
24 more minutes of data confirms, it's gone, the sun is gone.
And driving drunk or sober is the driver's choice.
But if you have to explain every detail, it was never going to work with some folks.
imo it was understood and fine. Especially compared to others on this site.
So like, how far beyond are normal orbit are we about now?
And now the sun cant be blamed for global warming, do you have any idea what fix you put the red team in?
I think a better one would be the unvaccinated are like drivers not wearing seatbelts.
As a vaccinated person, I'm not worried about what an unvaccinated person can do to me anymore than I am what a vaccinated person can do to me. The vaccine doesn't provide sterilizing immunity, so the vaccine is to protect the individual.
The vaccine prevents most from getting the symptoms (called getting THE DISEASE) which is indicative that they are capable of spreading.
So drivers NOT wearing seatbelts are more likely to run into you?
Can you explain the mechanism behind this? Because they know if the do get into a wreck it aint gonna be good?
So if you do get infected AND give the disease to another person, you will THEN get infected AND get the disease?
*Crinkle trash*
It now appears that vaccination does no more to prevent contracting covid than being unvaccinated. Try to keep up.
The vaccine does and still does work in increasing the probability you will NOT get the disease (this INCLUDES associated symptoms) we call Covid.
It now appears that vaccination does no more to prevent covid infection than being unvaccinated. Try to keep up.
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the seat belt one makes a less sense, because driver A deciding to wear a seatbelt or not has no bearing on driver/pedestrian B's safety (unless the lack of seatbelt causes driver A to get catapulted out the windshield and kamikaze somebody), whereas a person's decision to be unvaccinated (or dunk behind the wheel) causes heightened risk to himself and those around him
I agree that vaccination is like wearing a seat belt. If you drive long enough you will get in an accident. The seat belt hopefully prevents life threatening injury.
If you are out in public enough you are gonna get covid. Hopefully vaccination prevents life threatening injury.
This refutes absolutely nothing I have already stated.
If you are vaccinated, and want to catch the disease, find people who are shedding virus, get very close to them in meeting rooms and such day after day.
Breathe the air they have polluted. And hope you get a VERY large dose of virus at once.
This would be the way you would go about to TRY and catch the disease.
sorry
It now appears that vaccination does no more to prevent contracting covid than being unvaccinated. Try to keep up.
being unvaccinated heightens the risk for others around you. not wearing a seatbelt doesnt
So what do you do to drunk drivers who are repeatedly caught driving and running into other people besides telling them to wear their seatbelt?
Thats a goal post move requiring symptoms. Asymptomatic are just as contagious as symptomatic. The vaccine doesn't prevent it. The vaccine is mostly for personal protection to hopefully prevent serious illness WHEN you get it.
people here are so mad that vaccines work but not with 100.0% efficiency
Another goal post move. I said nothing about drunk drivers. And yes, drunk drivers increase the probability of accidents.
And strike three again with probability.
The vaccine absolutely prevents symptoms that are indicative that someone is much more likely to spread it (shed virus).
Asymptomatic is rare and many ARE NOT ACTIVELY shedding virus.
This can change. But here we are right now.
You suck. Im not mad, just being realistic about what they can and can't do. I have had covid and am triple vaxxed so I'm not saying I disagree with them, I just accept them for what they can maybe do, which is hopefully prevent serious injury and death.
Its an aerosol. It just requires breathing to spread. You don't have to be hacking and coughing.
your anecdotal experience is valid, but it does not trump published data. has shown time and time again the vaccines are effective at not only preventing serious symptoms/hospitalizations, but also infection
i know somebody will jump in and say that using the word "prevent" implies that it is 100% effective at doing so in all cases. it's not.
Not only did you get infected, you GOT the disease (And associated symptoms). You are falling pray to snakeman's snakeoil that everyone will get infected statement. And as I understand it you got the fairly bad symptoms, symptoms that some people never even experience. And your very bad symptoms thankfully did not aid in your death. So you escaped the worst outcome of getting infected by the virus and getting the associated symptoms AND it being bad enough to lead to your death. I hope you do not experience any long term problems that some appear to exhibit as a reminder.
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