Luka wears #77 all the time. Does that makes him overrated aswell?
I saw him wearing the # 77 shirt because of his 'snub' of the 75th anniversary of the NBA. I think he's a nice player and would definitely love to have him on my team, but I just can't stand the fact that he gets so overrated. Granted: a top 5 shooter of all time. Does that make him one of the greatest ever? Discuss.
Luka wears #77 all the time. Does that makes him overrated aswell?
Yes for him to think he is in the top 75 for his limited run band waggoning with the Warriors is a joke.
The whining about how it was only because of the injury that Toronto won in 2019, please.
He got nearly 40 minutes in almost every game.
The injuries to opponents, the WarriorRef, the Durant puss out all drastically take down their phony *dynasty. Toronto combined with the Lebron Cavs beating them forever puts their other *Championships in perspective.
Super good role player, shooter on a tv network team.
1) no hes not overrated at all, if anything hes arguably underappreciated. maybe not top 75 great but still a fantastic player
2) his team gave him that shirt as a joke
Last edited by Neo.; 10-25-2021 at 11:03 AM.
not sure how you can dismiss their accomplishments based on injuries to opponents, then credit the loss to toronto as something to put their championships in perspective, after they lost their #1 and #3 guy
True, fair to say GS without colluding Durant thus their #2 guy out. Curry is easily the #1 Dub and along with WarriorRef how Durbetta got such wide open shots. #3 Thompson played all but one quarter of that series.
Beyond that, easy.
Golden got 2015 opponents had key players out the entire series. Kyrie Irving blows his knee in what, game 1? Or was it before the series even began? 2015 i think every single opponent had a key injury.
2019 gots had Thompson for all but a quarter or so of the final game. Toronto ran them off the court on the way to a 3-1 lead with Thompson at full strength.
not true at all. he had been dealing with lingering injuries, left early in game 2 and missed game 3
Game 3 out, my bad. Yes that effected them
Game 2, 32 minutes. BooHoo he had to leave early. Kwa Leonard was out there battling with a degenerative quad.
Bottom line yes, Toronto was effected by Thompsons missing a game and Durbetta being all but out.
With their depth and ref pampering, ZERO sympathy from me. None. They finally had to deal with a fraction of what their opponents had to deal with and got exposed again.
this is correct
no one asked for sympathy. injuries are simply part of the game, as much as it sucks and can alter outcomes. point is, its illogical to knock them for winning against teams that were affected by injuries, then give other teams full credit for beating them when they were severely affected by injuries.
It's not apples to apples.
Throw in the ref pampering, collusion (whatever, call it you wish) of Durbetta.
But again concede the Dubs had absolutely seized momentum in Game 6 and Klaynus was a huge part of that.
To say they would have won for sure is nonsense. Kwa Leonard had show he was just as capable of going on a tear.
so what about the teams they beat that had dealt with injuries? would they have won for sure if they were healthy?
hm sounds like more nonsense tbqhfwiwimhoiirc
Good shooter
Benefits from being on a good team
No where near as good a defender as portrayed
^ Probably.
Lebron was playing out of his mind Tim Duncan levels in 2015. He was the Finals MVP.
2017 the super rigged call to pamper Durant to the FT line with under a minute to go was literally a game changer. Of course JR Dumb sealed that deal.
Lebron broke his hand slamming it in the locker room afterwords.
2018 i think the Collusion Dubs win for sure even vs a healthy Cavs team.
The top 75/76:
1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
2. Ray Allen
3. Giannis Antetokounmpo
4. Carmelo Anthony
5. Nate Archibald
6. Paul Arizin
7. Charles Barkley
8. Rick Barry
9. Elgin Baylor
10. Dave Bing
11. Larry Bird
12. Kobe Bryant
13. Wilt Chamberlain
14. Bob Cousy
15. Dave Cowens
16. Billy Cunningham
17. Stephen Curry
18. Anthony Davis
19. Dave DeBusschere
20. Clyde Drexler
21. Tim Duncan
22. Kevin Durant
23. Julius Erving
24. Patrick Ewing
25. Walt Frazier
26. Kevin Garnett
27. George Gervin
28. Hal Greer
29. James Harden
30. John Havlicek
31. Elvin Hayes
32. Allen Iverson
33. LeBron James
34. Magic Johnson
35. Sam Jones
36. Michael Jordan
37. Jason Kidd
38. Kawhi Leonard
39. Damian Lillard
40. Jerry Lucas
41. Karl Malone
42. Moses Malone
43. Pete Maravich
44. Bob McAdoo
45. Kevin McHale
46. George Mikan
47. Reggie Miller
48. Earl Monroe
49. Steve Nash
50. Dirk Nowitzki
51. Hakeem Olajuwon
52. Shaquille O'Neal
53. Robert Parish
54. Chris Paul
55. Gary Payton
56. Bob Pet
57. Paul Pierce
58. Scottie Pippen
59. Willis Reed
60. Oscar Robertson
61. David Robinson
62. Dennis Rodman
63. Bill Russell
64. Dolph Schayes
65. Bill Sharman
66. John Stockton
67. Isiah Thomas
68. Nate Thurmond
69. Wes Unseld
70. Dwyane Wade
71. Bill Walton
72. Jerry West
73. Russell Westbrook
74. Lenny Wilkens
75. Dominique Wilkins
76. James Worthy
I know they left the top 50 in and not bumped anybody out, but a few that I felt should be left, even after taking into their historical significance into account, are:
4. Carmelo Anthony - If Bernard King didn't make it, Melo shouldn't
6. Paul Arizin - Early pioneer, but his team never had much success with him at the helm
10. Dave Bing - A Chauncey Billiups type of guy, and Billups didn't make it (nor should he)
39. Damian Lillard - Too early, maybe in a few years, and his defense left a lot to be desired
62. Dennis Rodman - the best defender in NBA history, but he did it only for a few years with Detroit. The Bulls years really overrated him. I'd take Ben Wallace over him. And it's not like defensive specialists get recognized, nobody will ever think of putting Michael Cooper or Bruce Bowen
65. Bill Sharman - One of those players overrated due to the Celtics dynasty
71. Bill Walton - Too injured, too long. If he made it, Derrick Rose should have make it
Some i think should have made it over the ones above (in the following order, so English wouldn't make it in the top 75.
T-Mac
Vince Carter
MVPau
Ginobili
Shawn Kemp
Sidney Moncrief
Alex English
Klay is underrated
One of the best shooters of all time and also a great defensive player tbh (except vs Kyrie, but that brother can cook anyone 1 on 1 tbh)
Steve Nash is. 2 MVPs for a white midget because he could dribble and pass well, but got blown by even the end of bench plumbers on defense every time he was on the floor.
Never seen a sports league backstab its history to pimp today's product for TV ratings like the NBA. Quarter of those guys will just get replaced by the new shiny thing coming up
He's highly overrated (as most catch all metrics bare out) and overappreciated because of the media's obsession with the Warriors. They act like he's some lovable superstar, when in reality he's a complimentary fringe star who doesn't rank among the top snubs for NBA 75.
The fact that he has five All-Star selections to Ginobili's two, despite having no credible argument for being the same caliber of player, is an embarrassment.
i havent really seen anyone act like this at all. certainly not the majority. most people know hes simply a fantastic role player, whos contributions are often overlooked because of steph, kd and dray
well considering ginobilis stats were inferior, he frequently dealt with injury issues, and averaged 8 less mpg for his career, there is a very credible argument
but making more all star teams doesnt make klay a better basketball player, i think anyone who legit knows basketball can see that ginobili is maybe the most underappreciated player of all time and among the more skilled guards the league has ever seen
Steve Nash was real deal. For his size he gave the Spurs fits. He was tough as nails, didn't quit in games. I'd take him any day over some of these ing pussies of today, and Carmelo can off.
Klay isn't overrated. If you think he is just look at how the Warriors did last year. He's half of probably the best back court tandem in the history of the game.
Seriously? You'd be hard pressed to watch, listen or reed to any mainstream NBA related context and not have heard this ad nauseam.
Except his catch all metrics easily eclipsed Thompson's and even before they were widespread, head coaches should have known his value went far beyond the counting stats that were supressed for obvious reasons.
Manu is probably a 1st ballot HOFer. That's not underrated and yeah a lot of that is international play, but it's still Manu. In the NBA he is only underrated by other teams' fans, certainly not by other players.
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