Sorry I like Primo but he is no where close to being a PG he is about at close to being a PG at to being a Center...
cool as the other side of the pillow
Sorry I like Primo but he is no where close to being a PG he is about at close to being a PG at to being a Center...
Not sure about Sochan at 9 but glad to finally get a starting PF - Have to say Wesley and Branham were a pleasant Surprise I was shocked Branham fell to 20 he was a real steal and we got another upside kid who can guard quick PG/SG in Wesley - This would have been a perfect draft for me if we could have snagged Procida ..
Sure, but that doesn't mean he's not going to play PG.
Like I said in a different post, this draft only makes sense if they’re planning to tank next year and trading away some major pieces.
Wesley is still far from being a rotation guy. He is a swing.
All I’m sayin is that we really don’t have a choice. The old thinking isn’t working. These guys ain’t hungry anymore, they talk too much. All bark no bite. We need an iden y. Someone from the spurs brass needs to take charge and make an imprint.
I expect Collins to be the backup 5. If Sochan is going to play at the 5 then why is collins even on this team? Sochan shouldn't see any minutes at the 5 unless the other team goes super small and we know Collins and Poeltl just can't keep up.
Not starting Sochan at the 4 day 1 is a mistake, since there is virtually no compe ion their. Keldon can play the 3 just fine and McDermott needs to come off the bench so he can shoot at will anyway. Sochan at the 4 day one is a no brainer, though I do agree that somehow Pop will it up and wait until we start the season 5 - 15 to start Sochan, the act surprised when we go 11 - 4 over our next 15
There are going to be at least seven players on the roster who don't play in the everyday rotation. Collins might be one of them. He's way more vulnerable to losing his spot for a lot of reasons. Sochan might play the five because it's a position he can play in the NBA, especially off the bench for stretches. 6-8/6-9 guys play there all the time, way more than seven-footers play PF. That's not my opinion about what should happens. It's just what happens.
Maybe. I do think Sochan will have the compe ion I mentioned. It's not just about him at PF. The Spurs will start five players. Murray, Vassell, Johnson and Poeltl are locked in. The question will be: Who complements them best? I know you think that'll be Sochan because you think he'll just come in and fix the defense and not hurt the offense. And he might. But reasonable minds might think starting one of the other young guards instead makes sense. The unit can use shooting, spend and guard defense. At best, Sochan projects to provide the latter thing, and I don't know that he's going to be considered the answer to their woes. I would put Primo as the favorite to start, especially if he does have the improvement I expect him to show. After that, Sochan and McDermott are pretty close, and the two drafted guards aren't too far behind. I don't do odds, but I wouldn't put money on Sochan starting opening day at this point in the off-season.Not starting Sochan at the 4 day 1 is a mistake, since there is virtually no compe ion their. Keldon can play the 3 just fine and McDermott needs to come off the bench so he can shoot at will anyway. Sochan at the 4 day one is a no brainer, though I do agree that somehow Pop will it up and wait until we start the season 5 - 15 to start Sochan, the act surprised when we go 11 - 4 over our next 15
As far as how they'll start record-wise, we'll see. They had a better record than 5-11 last year despite always starting Johnson and some other small-forward. They likely won't lose as much as you're fearing/hoping just by virtue of the guys they do have improving.
I see Wesley as a 2/1 combo guard (primary position at the 2 and secondary position at the 1) where as I see Branham as a 2/3 so he'll spend his time playing and defending the 2/3 positions.
Murray/Primo/Jones
Vassell/Wesley
Johnson/Branham
Sochan/McDermott/KBD
Poeltl/Collins/Landale
I see it shaking out like this.
John hollinger had Wesley going 10 to Washington
Based on his highlights, his layup package reminds me of Tony Parker's. Wouldn't mind seeing him run some point, or maybe a combo guard.
Do you mind sharing his mock? Im assuming its behind a pay wall.
I think fans are sleeping on this pick a bit. He has some ivey in his game -- a big burst and good athleticism. He was required to do way too much for Notre Dame. I would have been happy with Sochan and Wesley just by themselves.
When it’s all said and done, Wesley may be the guy for Spurs from this draft. An absolutely outstanding haul tonight. Couldn’t be happier.
From Hollinger
11. Blake Wesley | 6-5 freshman | SG | Notre Dame
This is purely an upside play — there’s a chance Wesley ends up being terrible if his shooting and finishing don’t progress. It’s still worth taking Wesley here because his first-step quickness and lateral mobility provide a framework for some elite two-way outcomes … if he can just figure out how to shoot and make a layup. In this draft class, only Ivey can surpass Wesley’s explosiveness getting downhill to the rim, something that should be a much greater weapon at the NBA level.
Wesley’s offensive stats from his one season are a tad underwhelming. While he scored in volume (29.8 points per 100 possessions), he shot 47.1 percent from the arc, 30.3 percent on 3s and 65.7 percent from the line and barely had more assists than turnovers. Yikes. He’ll benefit from the more open space of the NBA floor, but there’s a lot to clean up here.
Where I feel better about Wesley is on the defensive end. He can move his feet laterally, contest shots and had an impressive steal rate (2.8 thefts per 100 possessions). You’d like to see him get into the ball a little bit more on the perimeter and concede fewer pull-ups, but he’s long and bouncy enough to bother players when they rise up. Bizarrely, he only blocked two shots all season — another sign he may be leaving some money on the table at that end.
As a result, I see two outs for success here: first as a downhill shot creator and second as a wing defensive stopper. Hit on both, and you’ve really got something. I initially had Wesley ranked lower but comparing his best-case scenarios with the less intriguing upside scenarios that follow, I had to move him up the list even if there’s a decent chance he bombs because of his offense.
Thanks! What about the rest of the 1st round haha.
I do find myself sleeping on him, even in the context of Barlow. It feels like an "extra" selection, when in reality, he and Branham fill different needs. Obviously there are "too many" guards right now, but that doesn't mean only one of these guys is going to get the short end of the stick. They could both be part of the team for a while.
I'm also really curious. I don't know much about Wesley's personality, but Branham appears to be a fantastic teammate. This matters because they'll inevitably be compared to each other although, as you say, they are fairly different players. One thing I like about all three rookies is that they don't seem to back down. They're not wilting daisies. I want game players who aren't getting the yips. Just play.
Great swing at 25. Could be a monster after a year in the G-league
Wesley is also regarded as having good character and is willing to learn.
He’s a much better swing than Lonnie though imo because he actually plays defense. He’s got long arms and really gets up into the ball handlers and makes them uncomfortable. Lonnie could never. Oh, and he’s still really ing athletic. Maybe not quite the high-flyer Lonnie is, but he’s got plenty of bounce.
There are quite a bit of similarities between Ivey and Wesley, he's sort of a less polished, younger Ivey if you will. But they both are about the same size (I believe Wesley is actually larger), both athletically gifted (though not quite at Ivey's level), both can really drive and score, Ivey is a better shooter at this point and more efficient, and Wesley is a better defender. And both need to gain court awareness and improve on their playmaking abilities. There's a real chance they end up much closer as players than their draft order would have you believe. I'm not saying he's a guaranteed hit (Ivey isn't 100% either), but he's definitely an excelent gamble considering where we got him.
Seems like a humble, level headed kid.
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