He was convicted of lying about Wikileaks you dump truck
OP needs to change le to guilty plea shows collapse of Russian narrative
He was convicted of lying about Wikileaks you dump truck
conviction =/= guilty plea
Did he plead guilty after being convicted?
Yeah my bad was just copying the le. He was convicted.
https://www.scribd.com/do ent/3982...419#from_embed
But what wasn’t really cleared up in the trial was whether Stone in fact had legitimate inside information about WikiLeaks and its posting of Democratic emails that had been hacked by Russian intelligence officers. To an extent, that makes sense — the charges against Stone weren’t about anything he did in 2016, but rather the alleged cover-up he perpetrated the following year.
The government presented voluminous do entary evidence that the story Stone told Congress — that all his WikiLeaks information came from a single “intermediary,” radio host Randy Credico — was false. And they suggested Stone concocted this false story to hide his true WikiLeaks connection — conservative author Jerome Corsi. But what, exactly, Corsi learned, and how he learned it, remain murky.
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/15/20964...-trial-verdict
And Mueller said Corsi concocted a false back channel to Wikileaks
https://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/do...-offense/3324/
Is the Trump/Russia collusion conspiracy dead? yes or no.
TSA
Stone guilty on all counts.
Whomp whomp.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...tml#g-page-139
Gates also reported that Manafort instructed him in April 2016 or early May 2016 to send Kilimnik Campaign internal polling data and other updates so that Kilimnik, in turn, could share it with Ukrainian oligarchs. Gates understood that the information would also be shared with Deripaska, ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ Gates reported to the Office that he did not know why Manafort wanted him to send polling information, but Gates thought it was a way to showcase Manafort’s work, and Manafort wanted to open doors to jobs after the Trump Campaign ended. Gates said that Manafort’s instruction included sending internal polling data prepared for the Trump Campaign by pollster Tony Fabrizio. Fabrizio had worked with Manafort for years and was brought into the Campaign by Manafort. Gates stated that, in accordance with Manafort’s instruction, he periodically sent Kilimnik polling data via WhatsApp; Gates then deleted the communications on a daily basis. Gates further told the Office that, after Manafort left the Campaign in mid-August, Gates sent Kilimnik polling data less frequently and that the data he sent was more publicly available information and less internal data.
Gates’s account about polling data is consistent ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ ■■■■■■■■■ with multiple emails that Kilimnik sent to U.S. associates and press contacts between late July and mid-August of 2016. Those emails referenced “internal polling,” described the status of the Trump Campaign and L 94
.... so the answer to your question is:
No, Trumps bestie Roger Stone being found guilty of obstruction of justice, witness tampering and lying under oath to protect Trump doesn't make the Russian collusion narrative dead.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1124706/download
Here is the indictment. It clearly states that Stone lied about working with and obtaining materials from WikiLeaks.
Wasn't part of the "Russian collusion" narrative that Russia was feeding the data it stole from the DNC to Wikileaks, and wikileaks was coordinating with the Trump campaign about the data the Russians stole?
Of course. The emails wikileaks had originated from Russian hacking. i thought that point was self evident but you're likely right to underscore it.
the collusion, at least passive but Jared gave Repug demographic data to Russian Cambridge Analytica, was real. Junior LOVING Russian dirt on Hillary was real
Trash ing up American geopolitis to suck up to Pootin is real
There never has been a conspiracy against corrupt, sicko bag Trash and his death wish.
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Did Meuller ever get to question Deripaska? or the other Russian intelligence officials? Yes or no.
did not "otherwise coordinate"
Meaning, essentially, that "other than this coordination, he didn't do anything else"
TSA.
Stone didn't work with or obtain materials from Wikileaks, he wasn't even indicted for any of that. If you think he did you obviously haven't read the counts he was convicted of. Why are you linking things you either haven't read or don't understand?
Manafort giving polling data to corrupt, Ukraine effectively was giving it to Pootin
Manafort HAD to know that Pootin's people are implanted throughout Ukraine.
That was the debunked narrative about Wikileaks and the Trump campaign, correct.
Are you trying to argue that the head of Organization 1 at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London is something/one other than WL? I read the indictment, dimwit. It's right there. . . .
STONE also corresponded with associates about contacting Organization 1 in order to
obtain additional emails damaging to the Clinton Campaign.
a. On or about July 25, 2016, STONE sent an email to Person 1 with the subject line,
“Get to [the head of Organization 1].” The body of the message read, “Get to [the
head of Organization 1] [a]t Ecuadorian Embassy in London and get the pending
[Organization 1] emails . . . they deal with Foundation, allegedly.”On or about September 30, 2016, Person 2 sent STONE via text message a
photograph of Person 2 standing outside the Ecuadorian Embassy in London where
the head of Organization 1 was located.The link is the Stone indictment. He was found guilty on ALL charges. Have fun eating .In truth and in fact, STONE had sent and received numerous emails and text messages
during the 2016 campaign in which he discussed Organization 1, its head, and its possession of
hacked emails. At the time of his false testimony, STONE was still in possession of many of these
emails and text messages, including:
a. The email from STONE to Person 1 on or about July 25, 2016 that read in part,
“Get to [the head of Organization 1] [a]t Ecuadorian Embassy in London and get
the pending [Organization 1] emails . . . they deal with Foundation, allegedly.”;
As is the case here. The prosecutors in their statements directly allude to the way Stone lied and hindered the investigation.
Beginning in March 2016, units of the Russian Federation’s Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff (GRU) hacked the computers and email accounts of organizations, employees, and volunteers supporting the Clinton Campaign, including the email account of campaign chairman John Podesta. Starting in April 2016, the GRU hacked into the computer networks of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) and the Democratic National Committee (DNC). The GRU targeted hundreds of email accounts used by Clinton Campaign employees, advisors, and volunteers. In total, the GRU stole hundreds of thousands of do ents from the compromised email accounts and networks. The GRU later released stolen Clinton Campaign and DNC do ents through online personas, “DCLeaks” and “Guccifer 2.0,” and later through the organization WikiLeaks. The release of the do ents was designed and timed to interfere with the 2016 U.S. presidential election and undermine the Clinton Campaign.
The Trump Campaign showed interest in the WikiLeaks releases and, in the summer and fall of 2016, ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ ■■■ After ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ WikiLeaks’s first Clinton-related release ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■, the Trump Campaign stayed in contact ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ about WikiLeaks’s activities. The investigation was unable to resolve ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ WikiLeaks’s release of the stolen Podesta emails on October 7, 2016, the same day a video from years earlier was published of Trump using graphic language about women.
a. WikiLeaks’s Expressed Opposition Toward the Clinton Campaign
WikiLeaks, and particularly its founder Julian Assange, privately expressed opposition to candidate Clinton well before the first release of stolen do ents. In November 2015, Assange wrote to other members and associates of WikiLeaks that “[w]e believe it would be much better for GOP to win ...as for the rest of it... it's all starts on page 139b. WikiLeaks’s First Contact with Guccifer 2.0 and DCLeaks
Shortly after the GRU’s first release of stolen do ents through dcleaks.com in June 2016, GRU officers also used the DCLeaks persona to contact WikiLeaks about possible coordination in the future release of stolen emails. On June 14, 2016, @dcleaks_ sent a direct message to @WikiLeaks, noting, “You announced your organization was preparing to publish more Hillary’s emails. We are ready to support you. We have some sensitive information too, in particular, her financial do ents. Let’s do it together. What do you think about publishing our info at the same moment? Thank you."
A lot of it is redacted, especially the parts that have to do with the campaigns coordination with wikileaks, probably due in no small part to Stone's trial.
Kind of hard to say it has been "debunked" if the parts we would need to know about are all redacted.
I'm not trying to argue that the head of Organization 1 is something other that Wikileaks/Assange. I'm arguing that Stone wasn't charged for conspiring with Wikileaks/Assange and the indictment you are referencing backs up my claim 100%.
Stone was charged about lying about his "go between". His "go between" was lying about having a back channel to Wikileaks. Mueller confirmed both of these things.
Post the charges he was found guilty of, I want to watch you realize you've been eating this whole time.
showing interest =/= conspiring with Wikileaks
Everyone had interest in the releases, that isn't a crime.
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