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    I think Ayton is an improvement over Poetl.

    We have money to use, it'll get eatten into pretty quickly by extensions, summer signings, etc.

    If he's available and wanting to come, would have to take a hard look at him. Not sure he takes over the hump. Not sure what the grand plan is either. We aren't playing well, playing just well enough to sneak into the play in tournament and play ourselves out of high lotto picks.
    It really was a failed season for the future progress of the team to win just enough to fall out of the top draft guys and get bounced out of the play in.

    Without a blockbuster trade on draft night I don't see any new addition from this draft really making enough of an impact to next year's team to make it all that much better.

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    It really was a failed season for the future progress of the team to win just enough to fall out of the top draft guys and get bounced out of the play in.

    Without a blockbuster trade on draft night I don't see any new addition from this draft really making enough of an impact to next year's team to make it all that much better.
    It’s a little dramatic, but I feel your pain. For me there were some important milestones this year between Pops record, DJs Allstar berth, front office being aggressive on the trade front, and internal growth of some players like Keldon and Jakob.

    But I’m hoping to see a theory of the case here soon. Was White the start of transitioning/cycling to the next crop of players? If not, what FA are they bringing in to build around DJ and Jakob this summer?

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    No one's saying he's a scrub. People are saying he's been provided a burst (as Booker has) because he gets fed a lot by Chris Paul. Paul has made the whole team better.

    More to the point, people are saying he's not worth the max that a #1 pick gets, which is true. That's just an absurd contract for a guy who won't have Paul, beside the fact that he can't shoot from deep and isn't a shot blocker. And also seems to have character and 'contract year player' issues.
    DJ was feeding Poeltl all season and was right behind CP3 in assists and TO ratio, so I don't understand where the issue is. Besides that Ayton actually didn't get a lot of touches on the Suns being the 3rd option. The guy only got 12 FGAs per game

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    Suns won't do that. The Suns can do better elsewhere.
    Suns need a d guy poeltil is a good shot blocky
    Booker and Paul are the two main scores
    Ayton wants to be a number one or two guy on o not the third option

    What d center can suns convince to give ayton on a max sign and trade deal

    Spurs also could throw the 38 pick
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    I’m pretty sure we would’ve chosen Luka with the first pick that year.
    Kawhi for the first pick was a done deal until the suns backed out draft day. Luka was gonna be the pick.

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    Kawhi for the first pick was a done deal until the suns backed out draft day. Luka was gonna be the pick.
    Doubt

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    Kawhi for the first pick was a done deal until the suns backed out draft day. Luka was gonna be the pick.
    Kawhi to a California team, Kings would have been the perfect drafting Luka at 2, and Kawhi impossibly ringing with the Kings.

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    ^ Luka Samminic

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    What’s the drop off between Ayton and Bamba?

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    What’s the drop off between Ayton and Bamba?
    Mt. Everest.

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    Not really.

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    DJ was feeding Poeltl all season and was right behind CP3 in assists and TO ratio, so I don't understand where the issue is. Besides that Ayton actually didn't get a lot of touches on the Suns being the 3rd option. The guy only got 12 FGAs per game
    Would I take Ayton at the salary Poeltl gets? Sure. But I'd still think about it, considering Ayton doesn't block shots.

    Would I take Ayton at the max for a #1 pick? no.

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    The Spurs are more than one piece away, and none of those is a center.

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    Would I take Ayton at the salary Poeltl gets? Sure. But I'd still think about it, considering Ayton doesn't block shots.

    Would I take Ayton at the max for a #1 pick? no.
    Ayton averaged the same number of blocks that Poeltl gets for the past 2 seasons before this one

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    Kawhi for the first pick was a done deal until the suns backed out draft day. Luka was gonna be the pick.
    If this is true, that's exactly what I wanted the Spurs to do that draft. I wanted them to trade with Sacramento too when Luka was still available, but didn't realize they tried to get Luka at number 1. If they actually tried this and it was in play, I can at least rest easy knowing they went for it.

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    Ayton averaged the same number of blocks that Poeltl gets for the past 2 seasons before this one
    No, not even on a per game basis. Per 36 minutes, Poeltl is way ahead.

    So in a contract year, Ayton really really sucked at blocking shots. More question about his effort and interest in the game.

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    Blocks per game:

    1) Jaren Jackson, Jr.

    4) Mitc Robinson (my choice for UFA to pursue if we don't draft a C.)

    7) Jakob Poeltl

    41) Derrick White
    42T) Kyle Anderson, Deandre Ayton and others

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    Blocks per game:

    1) Jaren Jackson, Jr.

    4) Mitc Robinson (my choice for UFA to pursue if we don't draft a C.)

    7) Jakob Poeltl

    41) Derrick White
    42T) Kyle Anderson, Deandre Ayton and others

    Mo Bamba def top 10

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    RFA Bamba is 5th

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    Oladipo + Bamba > Ayton

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    If this is true, that's exactly what I wanted the Spurs to do that draft. I wanted them to trade with Sacramento too when Luka was still available, but didn't realize they tried to get Luka at number 1. If they actually tried this and it was in play, I can at least rest easy knowing they went for it.

    It was done so much that it was being reported in Boston as done. Sarver nixed it day of the draft, wanted the hometown kid instead.

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    It was done so much that it was being reported in Boston as done. Sarver nixed it day of the draft, wanted the hometown kid instead.
    Doubt

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    Blocks per game 2021

    6. Jakob Poeltl 1.8
    17. DeAndre Ayton 1.2

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    Blocks per game 2021

    6. Jakob Poeltl 1.8
    17. DeAndre Ayton 1.2
    Is it 2021 already?

    Ayton dropped to a piddly 0.7 this last season (a contract season!).

    Even in 2021, per 36 minutes, Poeltl registered 2.4 blocks, Ayton registered 1.4.

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    Oladipo + Bamba > Ayton
    This is an underrated comment. Timing probably isn’t right for us but for a team like the Raptors, Grizz, maybe even Portland that duo probably costs you 25-30mm this free agency but has potential to be very disruptive.

    Shoutout Chinook for fancying Dipo this off-season.

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