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Right. He averaged 4.2 FTs per game in college, so he knows how to get to the line. His skillset is already very advanced. If he can mix in step backs, post ups, hooks shots and develop his left hand he could become a beast of a 2-way player
Athleticism + Spurs development can lead to surprising results.
Right. He averaged 4.2 FTs per game in college, so he knows how to get to the line. His skillset is already very advanced. If he can mix in step backs, post ups, hooks shots and develop his left hand he could become a beast of a 2-way player
He's closer to Belinelli than he is to Danny Green or Kawhi as far as defense goes. I think he's too slow to guard NBA SGs and too small/not long enough to defend SFs. His steal and block numbers were underwhelming for someone you expect to be an NBA level defensive specialist. For comparison, Danny Green and Kawhi's college numbers destroy his in those categories.
numbers don't tell everything, You could be a good defender without stealing a lot. Look at deandre Hunter.
Being someone that has had agents... I would question that guy for doing that.
Of course, I don't work in athletics, but I'm a keep all options open kind of guy.
This would upset me.
I somewhat get the gamble, but it was a bad gamble.
Spurs fan not gonna want to hear this; but a good pick. I thought the dude would go 13-22, tbh.
It'll be cool to see how much he dedicates himself to taking advantage of this opportunity.
I'll be happy to root for him.
Just happy spurs have a couple of 19/20 yo to develop
Looks like he's got small-ish hands for a NBA player, or we got spoiled by the nephew
I went to look how he did at the agility and strength tests at the combine, but it seems like he didn't do them. I hope he's quick enough to switch on guards
Ok so although he didn't do the tests at the combine I've found the numbers from Kentucky's 2018 pro day
https://kentuckysportsradio.com/bask...-measurements/
3.06 in the shuttle run puts him slightly behind players like Samanic and Kevin Porter Jr. (both 3.03) and on the same level of Brandon Clarke and Isaiah Roby (3.05)
Lane agility time is actually pretty good too, right behind KZ Okpala and ahead of Samanic
3/4 sprints he'd rank in the lower half of the combine with Grant Williams and Eric Paschall
max vertical leap he's in the middle of the pack with players like Nic Claxton and Cam Johnson, only slightly behind Darius Bazley
his standing vertical leap would actually be in the upper 3rd of the combine with players like Isaiah Roby
seems like he's one of the better athletes in the draft tbh
Last edited by RC_Drunkford; 06-22-2019 at 08:09 PM.
Good find. Thanks for doing the research
Not a good shooter but good at making stuff happen towards the basket with speed and agility. I wonder if they thought they saw a taller version of the next Tony Parker with this pick, tbh.
He has Tony Parker speed and natural aggressiveness to go along with his savvy?
He has a tear drop almost ready to go and instincts like Tony?
Holy ...
What kind of hope are you trying to feed here?
1.6 apg, too. Geez, that's awful.
On draft night I was disappointed we didn’t grab Nassir Little at 19 but after watching keldon some I actually think he’ll be better then LittleLittle has physical tools but he sucked at North Carolina
He's not anywhere near as quick as Tony, and that's just judging by the eye. Kill that kind of thinking right now lol.
He doesn't look super quick or athletic, more ok-average, but it seems like he will take it to the hoop without fear, which is nice.
Really, as long as he can defend the average 2-guard well and make 3-pointers late in a game, he'll be a great addition.
looks like me and RC are on the same page. Excellent.
It makes sense if they view him as a wing (sg/sf) vs a big forward (sf/pf). A wing is what we needed anyway since we have only DeMar and Beli for that role. What better player could we have gotten at 29th who is a wing? Probably the only answer is Kevin Porter Jr, and his character issues probably scared away the Spurs.
Lets take it a step further and ask who could they have taken with the 19th for a wing (sg/sf)
There's Thybulle and Nassir Little. Yall already know my thoughts on Little. And while Thybulle is decent, his offense doesnt have the potential of Keldon's. Keldon has the best 2-way potential of these three. So i could definitely see why KJ was top rated even from the 19th pick.
Last edited by Dejounte; 06-23-2019 at 07:00 AM.
Here's comparing stats between Harden (college), DeMar (college), Keldon, Little, Porter Jr. Keep in mind Little and Porter Jr had only sub 20 minutes played per game so their numbers are skewed, so its better to look at everything in context and look at percentages. Harden took more shots and played 5 more minutes than Keldon.
http://www.tankathon.com/players/com...evin-porter-jr
It's hard to find James Harden's college highlights...
Take note he didn't have his signature step back.
Take a close look at Harden's follow through on his 3 pt shot, looks eerily similar to Johnson's follow through
Kawhi Leonard’s no step was 25.5, and his max vert was 32.
Because Keldon is a wing (sg/sf) while PJ is a big forward (sf/pf). I would take Pat Riley's word with a grain of salt. Dude hasnt been the best for scouting individuals. All of his past drafts have been garbage.Why not compare him to his classmate and Sophmore P.J Washington?
Apparently another good evaluator of talent, Pat Reily, coveted P.J. Washington and chose HERRO over Keldon
Poor Justice Winslow
But maybe a FUTURE SPUR........?
PJ should be compared to Luka, if anyone. I would take Luka over him 10/10.
Big forward is a term defined in my other thread. I dont mean he's literally big, (he actually is though, by weight and wingspan) but in terms of their playstyle. PJ cannot play as a scorer/shotcreator, secondary playmaker. Keldon can. Neither can Keldon post up or defend the weakside. Thats the difference.
EXPLAIN TO ME HOW PJ WASHINGTON
is a BIGER FORWARD
Than KELDON?
Last edited by Dejounte; 06-23-2019 at 08:15 AM.
He’s basically taller shoulder wise but has a shorter neck, where Johnson is the opposite. Bulk wise they look the same. Much rather have Johnson esp where he got picked, talk about value late in a round.
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