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    I'm not going for that.

    I'm simply asking you if you believe Hitler and Goebbels?

    I don't.

    Do you?
    Pavlov....you....as usual, why?

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    Lol debate camp smack.

    DMC used to abjure it.

    Lol debate cop smack.
    Lol mercurial Winehole

    Lol spastic spatterings

    Lol senile shots from the gallery

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    Reading the Bruce Ohr hearing that is available to the public -

    confirms what pieces of Gowdy and Meadows are -

    they are reaching though and when you have the truth on your side and have followed the law in doing your job - it just makes the "investigators investigating the investigators"

    look like complete and total - amateurs, crooks, traitors, & corrupt partisan morons.




    add to that - idiots like TSA who then read someone's tweet and imply that there was something nefarious at the FBI - and it is plain disgraceful what a cult brainwashing has done to people.

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    who ever called him a spy?

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    who ever called him a spy?
    not to mention - the people he gave info/data to -

    were "people close to Putin"

    regardless if they were Ukrainian or Russian or Siberian or whatever they throw at the wall -

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    not to mention - the people he gave info/data to -

    were "people close to Putin"

    regardless if they were Ukrainian or Russian or Siberian or whatever they throw at the wall -
    TSA tried to argue that the Ukrainians he worked for hated Russia.

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    TSA tried to argue that the Ukrainians he worked for hated Russia.
    always reaching for anything that might stick on the wall

    "the spaghetti conspiracists"


    still reading Ohr's transcript...


    about 100 pages ago - Ohr - answered a question about what info Christopher Steele might have passed on to him...


    one of the pieces of info was that

    Steele had a source - who told him that "the russian gov't had Trump over a barrel"


    100 pages later

    Sherlock Gowdy, Inspector Clouseau Gym Jordan or Nazi Mark Meadows -


    have not found the time to follow-up and ask a simple question...like...maybe...

    "what did he mean? what kind of info did Russia have on Trump? what made this source - believe that Russia's gov't had Trump over a barrel?"

    100 pages later -

    not a ing question, not a curiosity, not a tiny bit of due diligence -


    but they have asked hundreds of questions about

    Ohr's wife
    wife's salary
    wife taxes
    joint or indiv taxes filed
    Ohr's notes
    strock
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    steeles habits
    steeles salary
    steeles history
    steeles "desperate comment regarding trump"



    but

    nothing about how and why russia had trump "over a barrel"

    zero




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    TSA tried to argue that the Ukrainians he worked for hated Russia.
    Is that why Manafort was pushing for them to join the EU?

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    not to mention - the people he gave info/data to -

    were "people close to Putin"

    regardless if they were Ukrainian or Russian or Siberian or whatever they throw at the wall -

    The only person with ties “close to Putin” was Christopher Steele and he was lobbying the DOJ through Bruce Ohr to let Deripaska back in the US.

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    TSA tried to argue that the Ukrainians he worked for hated Russia.

    You really need to read McCarthy’s column as it appears you know all about who Manafort worked for in Ukraine.

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    The only person with ties “close to Putin” was Christopher Steele and he was lobbying the DOJ through Bruce Ohr to let Deripaska back in the US.

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    not to mention - the people he gave info/data to -

    were "people close to Putin"

    regardless if they were Ukrainian or Russian or Siberian or whatever they throw at the wall -
    Kilminik is most likely a Western intelligence asset. Mueller’s team has been fighting hard with the court to keep the information Manafort/Gates provided redacted. Do you ever stop to think why neither Manafort nor Kilminik were charged by Mueller for the sharing of polling data?

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    Is that why Manafort was pushing for them to join the EU?
    Jesus, you're just a disingenuous little punk now.

    Ukraine has a sharp political and geographic divide between its pro-Western, Ukrainian-speaking majority and a large Russian minority that looks East.

    While other American consultants, both Democratic and Republican, were working on the campaigns of Ukraine's pro-Western "Orange" parties, Manafort was working for a party whose base was in Russian-speaking Eastern Ukraine. Manafort's new bosses were oligarchs friendly to Moscow, and hostile to America's principal military alliance, NATO.

    Said [former US ambassador to Ukraine John] Herbst, "They were pro-Russian because that's where their voters were politically and culturally. So they would not have gotten them if they were arguing for NATO — let's join NATO — policies."

    Skepticism about NATO had the virtue of appealing to many Ukrainian speakers as well. Nationwide, more than half of the public opposed joining the military alliance.

    He could attract pro-Western Ukrainians, meanwhile, by broadcasting his support for European Union membership. Some oligarchs behind the party were eager to do business with Europe anyway.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...kraine-n775431


    Was Viktor Yanukovych pro Russia?

    Yes or no.

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    Kilminik is most likely a Western intelligence asset.
    According to whom?

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    Jesus, you're just a disingenuous little punk now.



    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...kraine-n775431


    Was Viktor Yanukovych pro Russia?

    Yes or no.
    You really need to read McCarthy’s column as it appears you know all about who Manafort worked for in Ukraine. After you read it you’ll realize how a simple yes or no question was naive.

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    According to whom?

    Evidence submitted to the court Weissmann is fighting to keep redacted.

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    You really need to read McCarthy’s column as it appears you know all about who Manafort worked for in Ukraine. After you read it you’ll realize how a simple yes or no question was naive.
    Was Viktor Yanukovych pro Russia?

    Yes or no.

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    Evidence submitted to the court Weissmann is fighting to keep redacted.
    So, your guess.

    Whose guess are you regurgitating here, TSA?

    Undercover Huber? Stealth Jeff? Grocer?

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    So, your guess.

    Whose guess are you regurgitating here, TSA?

    Undercover Huber? Stealth Jeff? Grocer?
    It’s not a guess it’s from the court filings and the judge’s mouth.

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    It’s not a guess it’s from the court filings and the judge’s mouth.
    That he's a western intel asset?

    Show me the quote.

    Let's see it.

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    Was Viktor Yanukovych pro Russia?

    Yes or no.
    You’re nothing but a simpleton who thinks everything is black and white


    “Yanukovych’s moment of truth came in late 2013. He was poised to sign the Association Agreement with the EU, a framework for integration. Putin furiously turned up the heat: blocking Ukrainian imports, drastically reducing Ukrainian exports, bleeding billions of trade dollars from Kiev’s economy, threatening to cut off all gas supplies and drive Ukraine into default. Manafort pleaded with his client to stick with the EU. Yanukovych caved, however, declining to enter the Association Agreement and making an alternative pact with Putin to assure gas supplies and financial aid.”

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    That he's a western intel asset?

    Show me the quote.

    Let's see it.

    Already posted in this thread. Find it.

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    Since you're too much of a pussy to say if Viktor Yanukovych was pro Russia, maybe you'll man up and answer this one:

    Where is Viktor Yanukovych now?

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    Already posted in this thread. Find it.
    you're a lying pussy.

    There is no do ent saying he's a western intel asset.

    None.

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