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    Trump says every American can get a coronavirus vaccine by April, but health experts say that's not likely
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/healt...-bn/index.html

    Off by a month
    this aged well

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    "By April every single American who wants to be vaccinated will have the ability to be vaccinated,"
    Off by a month like I said. Unless you're pulling the but what about the children card.

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    It's a worldwide pandemic. Lots of people unvaccinated elsewhere means a reservoir for mutation and future harm to us.
    and... winner.

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    Off by a month like I said. Unless you're pulling the but what about the children card.
    What is Jared Kushner doing to convince people to get the Trump vaccine?

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    Is there some way to discuss and consider "vaccines and treatments" without posting information about them?

    Repost =/= advice or conclusion, sometimes it just means something seems interesting to me.

    There doesn't seem to be much interest in therapeutics.

    CDC advice: Stay home. Call 911 when you can't breathe.

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...when-sick.html

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    There doesn't seem to be much interest in therapeutics.

    CDC advice: Stay home. Call 911 when you can't breathe.

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...when-sick.html
    Booster semi annual subscriptions to 8 billion humans >>>> $$$$ than cures for a few tens of millions a year that would need them

    also governments will not be able to do lockdowns at will and monitoring if we had decent cures

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    Still under investigation by NIH

    Other agents have undergone or are currently undergoing investigation in the outpatient setting. For more information, please refer to the sections of the Guidelines that address:

    Antiviral agents, such as ivermectin and nitazoxanide
    Convalescent plasma
    Immunomodulators, such as colchicine and fluvoxamine
    Supplements, such as vitamin C, vitamin D, and zinc


    https://www.covid19treatmentguidelin...ic-management/

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    Still under investigation by NIH

    Other agents have undergone or are currently undergoing investigation in the outpatient setting. For more information, please refer to the sections of the Guidelines that address:

    Antiviral agents, such as ivermectin and nitazoxanide
    Convalescent plasma
    Immunomodulators, such as colchicine and fluvoxamine
    Supplements, such as vitamin C, vitamin D, and zinc


    https://www.covid19treatmentguidelin...ic-management/
    Viruses are notoriously difficult with therapeutics although we are getting much better.
    One major problem is that viral genetic material is injected into YOUR cells making them very difficult to stop completely. So their genetic material can basically hide and wait.
    We can get them when they are outside of the cell, but inside is very difficult. The great thing about vaccines is they have a much longer time line of effectiveness. Your body will constantly make cells and antibodies made by cells that attack the virus in multiple stages, even getting at your own cells that are going to "unload" transmissible viral particles by scanning the surface of your own cells and then killing those SPECIFIC cells.
    Of course we keep looking for therapeutics, but its a much more difficult problem, look at AIDS, it took a good while to get the therapeutics and antivirals correct and even then I would rather have COVID. No vaccine for AIDS. A huge pain in the ass. You would rather have your own "known" familiar system taking care of things rather than putting weird organic molecules in your body that your body might say, "this is not familiar" fk this thing.

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    "Eight percent of our DNA consists of remnants of ancient viruses,

    and another 40 percent is made up of repe ive strings of genetic letters

    that is also thought to have a viral origin."

    https://www.cshl.edu/the-non-human-l...viral%20origin.

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    "Eight percent of our DNA consists of remnants of ancient viruses,

    and another 40 percent is made up of repe ive strings of genetic letters

    that is also thought to have a viral origin."

    https://www.cshl.edu/the-non-human-l...viral%20origin.
    Yeah I posted about this, but it did not seem to be impressive.
    Viruses to a fantastic job of piggy backing and replicating their own genetic material.

    Here is where a reading of the gist of the "Selfish Gene" by Richard Dawkins is valuable.
    He basically called it on what actually might be the fundamental level of selection in natural selection. He also got a lot of things wrong and has basically gone out of his mind imo. But this book is astounding insight because it was written BEFORE we sequenced the human genome and found out about all this strange DNA. And it just keeps getting stranger the further we look into it. Amazing stuff and an amazing read.

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    get the damn shot



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    There doesn't seem to be much interest in therapeutics.

    CDC advice: Stay home. Call 911 when you can't breathe.

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...when-sick.html
    There's a new antiviral for covid in phase 3 that reportedly is looking really good. Probably will be hearing about it soon. I can't remember the name off hand. Starts with M, ends with VIR like all antivirals.

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    Add age and health to those #s.or theyre worthless

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    There's a new antiviral for covid in phase 3 that reportedly is looking really good. Probably will be hearing about it soon. I can't remember the name off hand. Starts with M, ends with VIR like all antivirals.
    Dammit, it's buggin me I can't think of the name. I think it rhymes with a female body part.

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    Dammit, it's buggin me I can't think of the name. I think it rhymes with a female body part.
    Masturvir?

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    Dammit, it's buggin me I can't think of the name. I think it rhymes with a female body part.
    Mulvir

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    Dammit, it's buggin me I can't think of the name. I think it rhymes with a female body part.
    Maginavir?

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    Dammit, it's buggin me I can't think of the name. I think it rhymes with a female body part.
    Fallopivir?

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    Molnupiravir
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...rs/ar-BB1bFDTw

    In phase 3, govt has prepurchased 1.7 million courses (not doses) for $1.2B

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    get the jab or pay out the ass for testing, it's a personal choice.


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    get the jab or pay out the ass for testing, it's a personal choice.


    What do they do for people who have immunity from natural infection?

    Why are these people ignored?

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    What do they do for people who have immunity from natural infection?

    Why are these people ignored?
    sorry you're going through this, snowflake

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    What do they do for people who have immunity from natural infection?

    Why are these people ignored?
    That's probably among the medical exemptions mentioned.

    Unclench, Darrin. Don't try to be a vicarious victim again. It's getting to be pretty pathetic.

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    dumb Darrin dislikes reading

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