The only reasons Celts lost in 85.
Larry Bird's Foolish Involvement in a Bar Fight Cost the Celtics in the 1985 NBA Finals (sportscasting.com)
The only reasons Celts lost in 85.
Larry Bird's Foolish Involvement in a Bar Fight Cost the Celtics in the 1985 NBA Finals (sportscasting.com)
You're right, a lot of sources corroborating it as 85. Not sure if I remembered wrong or if where I read it was wrong in saying it was 1983.
Pretty ing re ed of Bird, definitely sounds like they gave away the 85 Finals and he had a pretty series by his standards. Guess it was a gift back though after the way Magic and Worthy gave away the 84 Finals with a couple of boneheaded passes and dribbling out the clock. God a Lakers - Celtics series in 86 would have been a bloodbath Celtics victory though with how much of a cancer Maurice Lucas was and how far Abdul-Jabbar had fallen off. Would have probably hurt Magic's legacy a lot more than losing to Houston if he got his teeth kicked in by that ridiculous 86 Celtics team.
Turns out that was Riley's fault, running a ing training camp in their break before the Finals despite the Lakers being old as by 1989.
No word on Magic and his amazing athletcism, I see.
What about Kobe (aka Jordan lite) in today's NBA? If Jordan can't annihilate players athletically like he did back then, Kobe would be a bench player in today's NBA.
Damn for anyone who never saw the 86 Celtics play, pretty much every game from their 86 season is on youtube
What's the Maurice Lucas story?
iirc they went 11-0 in the Western conference playoffs before the finals that year too
Lucas thought he was a star and demanded to be one there too when all the Lakers wanted was a rebounder, defender, and enforcer. Supposedly Lucas alienated the whole team which is why he wasn't brought back after one year. Was supposedly a black hole on offense.
They just barely beat out Phoenix for the division le, the first two sweeps were against a crap Blazers team and a meh Sonics team, and even though they swept the Suns in the WCF 3 of the 4 games were really close. Riley decided to basically hold a second training camp for an old team that needed the rest they were afforded from sweeping Phoenix with that talented 63 win Pistons team still fuming from how close they came to a le the season before coming out of the East. Byron Scott tore his hamstring in a rebounding drill in that camp and then Magic tore his in Game 2, likely a result of that stupid training camp. Not that they would have had much of a chance. The 89 Pistons were better than the 88 Pistons and that 88 Pistons team came the 'phantom foul' from winning over the 88 Lakers team that was far superior to the 89 Lakers while having about a 10% Isiah in Game 7. So I would have still taken Pistons, but in 6 had Scott and Magic not gotten hurt.
Thank you.
Need an occasional visual of 86 Celts vs 14 Spurs.
Given todays NBA.
1986 Celtics vs 2000 Lakers
'14 Spurs vs '17 Warriors
86 Celtics in 4 tbh
LOL the 86 Rockets took them to 6
Dream, if drafted by the Spurs in 97 instead of Jim, would have 7 rangs.
Dream >> JimPERID
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If the Lakers drafted McGrady instead of snitch they'd have been a really tough matchup for Olajuwon's Spurs and Hakeem probably doesn't get to 7.
Bird vs Leonard is the highlight of the series
On paper I prefer '86 Celtics. Walton vs Diaw/Splitter.
Spurs make it a series with the 3-ball but the Celtics get too many easy baskets in the post against an aging Duncan. All that Boston size vs 03/04 Duncan would be something.
I think Bird torches Leonard.
And Kawhi would torch Bird on the other end
Idk...I can easily imagine Leonard stuffing Bird's shot multiple times. He wasn't used to dealing with that kind of length and athleticism.
Bird would have his moments too. He'd use his intelligence and fakes to get plenty of shots off. But it wouldn't be a domination.
Not sure who the Celtics are going to have guard Porker, but if it's Ainge i can see lots of fast breaks for Porker.
OTOH Celtics are definitely smart enough to get Ainge shots over smaller Porker.
Rodman was a better defender than Kawhi, IMO - and he did well against him.
But Lefty is correct that Kawhi does his thing against Bird as well.
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