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    I cant keep up with all this maneuvering.
    I guess the bottom line is if you are in the majority in Texas, you can get almost anything done, it just depends on the lengths you will go to if the minority pushes you. The blue team needs to push this as hard as they can to make sure they can involve the DOJ fully I guess.
    If the GOP tramples the rules and the Dems, as I expect they will, hopefully the legal challenges will be easier.

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    a lot of people are watching elsewhere


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    a lot of people are watching elsewhere

    This is a good thing.
    I guess the red team takes this to the wee hours.

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    entirely new language that's never been debated on the floor and was agreed upon by only R members of the conference committee, is included in the bill currently being debated.

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    entirely new language that's never been debated on the floor and was agreed upon by only R members of the conference committee, is included in the bill currently being debated.
    and the significance would be the blue team never got to look at it and needs time?
    And then the red team says you dont get time?

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    The standard for throwing out elections has been lowered to preponderance of evidence. Meaning, Texas judges will be able to overturn elections based on mere allegations, without any finding of actual fraud, if SB7 passes.

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    and the significance would be the blue team never got to look at it and needs time?
    And then the red team says you dont get time?
    that's correct.

    the amendment to go beyond the bounds will mean that 20 pages of brand new language not included in any previous version of the bill and negotiated in secret by Republicans only, will be part of the bill, without any public input or House debate, if the resolution passes. which it almost surely will.

    (after the point of order that was just raised is disposed with.)

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    that's correct.

    the amendment to go beyond the bounds will mean that 20 pages of brand new language not included in any previous version of the bill and negotiated in secret by Republicans only, will be part of the bill, without any public input or House debate, if the resolution passes. which it almost surely will.

    (after the point of order that was just raised is disposed with.)
    so there is a clear rule/law, that if new language is put into a bill the other team must have the time to review it.
    And the public has a right to see it first as well, especially the reporters who try and follow these bills?

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    the point of order



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    This is a good thing.
    I guess the red team takes this to the wee hours.
    Sine die is midnight.

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    Sine die is midnight.
    yea if the red team spent this much time doing all this crap in the middle morning hours they sure as are not going to let it die.

    I guess its some sort of hard push that just says "we dont care what the points of order are, the bill is passed"
    And done. Then its up to others to come in and work on the legality. Enter DOJ hopefully. Luckily Barr is gone.

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    so there is a clear rule/law, that if new language is put into a bill the other team must have the time to review it.
    And the public has a right to see it first as well, especially the reporters who try and follow these bills?
    if the Texas House or Senate decide to set aside their own rules, there's not much the minority can do but challenge the law in court afterwards, presuming their points of order fail and they don't run out the clock.

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    I'm not sure what would happen if the Dems break quorum, presumably no vote could take place.


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    I'm not sure what would happen if the Dems break quorum, presumably no vote could take place.

    If the Governor calls a special election and allows the bill to be reviewed, this would not be good for the red team.
    So I guess he can just say a special election is now on, when the blue team breaks quorum?

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    this law, whether it passes or not going be a black eye for Texas. if it does pass the economic hit could be huge.

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    Dems walking out?


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    if 51 House Dems leave, quorum will be denied

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    signature matching is bull

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    the first vote for the SB7 is 86-0, bill fails for lack of quorum.


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    special session upcoming


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    Evidently, the way I voted will not be affected. Nor, will the way my 75 yr old mother voted. We voted in person.

    I'm against mass dumps of rando ballots.

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    Evidently, the way I voted will not be affected. Nor, will the way my 75 yr old mother voted. We voted in person.

    I'm against mass dumps of rando ballots.
    what do you mean by "mass dumps"?

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    what do you mean by "mass dumps"?
    Like a lot of ballots at once. This isn't rocket science.

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    what do you mean by "mass dumps"?
    Karrin is as good at answering questions as Derp, good luck getting an explanation

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