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I don't know but I can't help but think LMA is partly the reason he doesn't want to be here and when the Spurs signed him to an extension, the hit the fan.
Ball Ingram Kuz or bust
I don't know but I can't help but think LMA is partly the reason he doesn't want to be here and when the Spurs signed him to an extension, the hit the fan.
Nah. Kawhi was resting while LMA crapped on HOU to get SA to the WCF.
Maybe he is ..
which is why the Spurs haven't just paid him up... though at this point it's really tough to believe anything.
I think slightly better.
Depends on what you value.
Ingram will be the better play-maker and I think the better shooter but he has been working on his range.
As it stands I think jaylen is the better defender (though Ingram can narrow that and has crazy length) and is definitely the more fluid natural athlete.
His shrinking in the ECF worries me though. Before they faced cavs I was in the ainge wont and shouldnt give you guys brown for KL since he is cheaper.
but in KL's first playoff run NEVER looked like Brown did (mediocre) vs. the cavs.
But now IF I were the celts and spurs would be willing to take Jaylen for KL I do that in less than 3 seconds ...
If reports are true you guys are right to insist on Tatum.
Like I said last week no matter where spurs trade KL they HAVE to get their best young prospect along with a pick. Period. Since they cant get Simmons that would rule out Philly. Clips have no one like that and so to me it's Ingram AFTER Tatum. but ahead of Fultz and josh jackson. if celts give you Tatum you take it.
Exactly, it wasn't a so-called plug n' play system built around culture that the Spurs supposedly forged 20 years ago but a one man wrecking crew.
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Tatum > Brown > Jackson > Ingram > Fultz IMO
i'd put ingram and fultz ahead of jackson
thanks bron sources...
would have loved Bron in the Spurs even on a one year deal personally, but Kiwi had to be a ...
He was a complete no show after Kawhi went down vs GS. I'm not buying into the triple teaming theory as to why his game suddenly fell off a cliff. He couldn't even help hold a 24 point lead with under 16 minutes left to play in Game 1 of the WCF's
We agree to disagree. I like Jaylen's intellect personality more than any of them including Tatum's but I would say Tatum>Ingram>Brown>jackson>Fultz.
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Brandon Ingram is who I'd want for Kawhi Leonard if I'm the Spurs. Ingram is 6-foot-9 with long arms, scoring ability from all levels, passing vision, good in P&R, smooth footwork, defensive versatility. Improved fundamentally and physically. Turns 21 soon. Ingram can be a stud.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.dcff14554fc5
In an attempt to sweeten the pot, multiple sources said the Lakers and Denver Nuggets are discussing a potential deal that would see Los Angeles take back bad money for a draft pick. The Nuggets, who will be deep into the luxury tax after re-signing restricted free agent center Nikola Jokic next month, have about $34 million in expiring contracts for Kenneth Faried, Darrell Arthur and Wilson Chandler to send out in possible deals.
It’s reasonable to assume such a deal would only happen if it was necessary to get a Leonard trade over the finish line. There’s always a chance Ball could be moved elsewhere for other assets San Antonio may prefer, as well.
Brandon Ingram's past season, which some considered a "breakout" :
13.8 PER(overrated stat, but still relevant for high usage players), 53.6 TS%(ew), .068 WS per 48(disgusting) and NEGATIVE on/off metrics..
I don't have a problem with anybody being intrigued by his potential, he's only entering year 3 in the NBA, but he's shown nothing special so far in the league..he's had 1 notable month in 2 seasons..if you compare him to star wing players of the 2000s/2010s, only Giannis(who is more of a PF) showed as little as Ingram has through 2 seasons..
Kuzma is largely irrelevant..comparing him to Bertans is sillybut you can find volume scorers who don't do anything else all around the NBA and in every draft(I think Spurs fans get enamored with those types because the Spurs never seen to pursue any of them, which is why somebody like Rudy Gay became an instant favorite)
Not denying Brown is better than BI is RIght now.
He actually was better than Tatum/Jackson too.
But this is future projections ...
Son without Kawhi this year he beasted on GS
I like Ingram. Saying I have him less than the other 3 isn’t a knock. I would be very happy with Ingram as long as it came with much more than Kuz.
Yeah, long term I think Ingram can be really good to possibly great, durability is the major concern tho.
Brown, I honestly dont know how much better he can get, that's the worry I have him in regards to him being a centerpiece for Kawhi.
The Spurs are going to try and get Richard Jefferson back from Denver.
The reality is that if these guys had played for the Pistons or Hornets last year, nobody would think anything of them
Look at what happened to the Rox once CP3 went down. CP3 is the Rox second best player and they couldn't win the final 2 games against the Warriors despite having a great system. So again you are just full of to me.
"Tim Botempts reports, according to multiple sources, the Nuggets are discussing a trade to send a draft pick to the Lakers, with L.A. then taking on some combination of the contracts of Kenneth Faried, Darrell Arthur and/or Wilson Chandler.
In an attempt to sweeten the pot, multiple sources said the Lakers and Denver Nuggets are discussing a potential deal that would see Los Angeles take back bad money for a draft pick. The Nuggets, who will be deep into the luxury tax after re-signing restricted free agent center Nikola Jokic next month, have about $34 million in expiring contracts for Kenneth Faried, Darrell Arthur and Wilson Chandler to send out in possible deals.
It’s reasonable to assume such a deal would only happen if it was necessary to get a Leonard trade over the finish line. There’s always a chance Ball could be moved elsewhere for other assets San Antonio may prefer, as well."
Not terrible depending on picks
Getting a pick from Denver? A team likely to make the playoffs? Seems eh.
Andrew Sharp on BI:
Sharp: I don't think Ingram is a guy that you can build your team around. He's not going to be a franchise guy but I think he is an all-star that can fit with any team in the NBA. I think that is where he will be in year five or six and that is still pretty early.
I think he has more potential than that but wanted to give both sides of views on him ...
I agree you cant build around him but i say he is a all-star in two years.
If he stays with us I firmly believe he can be a #2 on a legit contender in a few years ...
Problem is if Lebron is coming we wont have patience to see it through.
KL on OTOH if healthy can be a #1 on a legit contender and has proven THAT ...
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