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    White is going to be a good NBA player just because he can shoot.

    Imagine Brogdon & White as our future back court .
    Too much overlap and not in a good way for a starting back court. You need 2 dynamic perimeter players in this league now and neither of them are that. They're the type who compliment those types.

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    Derrick has been working his tail off all year. He has a personal trainer with him to make sure he's getting in 2-3 hours of shooting everyday (outside of game days).

    I've notice an improvement in his stroke in recent months.

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    White is going to be a good NBA player just because he can shoot.

    Imagine Brogdon & White as our future back court .
    murray and white fit very well together too, in theory

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    murray and white fit very well together too, in theory
    What theory?

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    its only in theory because we haven't seen it in practice yet.

    their games complement each other quite well

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    its only in theory because we haven't seen it in practice yet.

    their games complement each other quite well
    One of them needs to shot the three. Your theory is dumb as .

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    Tony has been really bad. Pop is a lot more judicious in how he plays him. He’s getting his minutes cut if he’s a TO machine, he’s not closing games and he has been demoted. Bc of his smaller role he’s now not getting a lot of heat but if he was still starting and closing games etc., ppl would complain about how hard he has fallen. Ideally I want him to retire. He doesn’t want to and won’t so maybe he doesn’t get overrelied on anymore and gets a small vet deal, but Spurs would still be tied up with Mills/Tony for many years...
    If PATFO bring back either Patty or Tony I will be hooping mad. Not disappointed and certainly not surprised - but mad. I thoroughly expect PATFO to bring back both.

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    One of them needs to shot the three. Your theory is dumb as .
    White can shoot the 3 and has an all around offensive game. For a supposed elite poster you should already know this. Murray and White are the future backcourt.

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    White can shoot the 3 and has an all around offensive game. For a supposed elite poster you should already know this. Murray and White are the future backcourt.
    I haven't seen him do at the NBA level. And he's trash.

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    Take that to the bank.

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    Green's not as far off the average as people are suggesting. He's able and more importantly willing to do more than just spot up.
    you watching today's showing?

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    you watching today's showing?
    Yes. I'm also looking at the whole season, though. He's doing better in the paint than Murray and Mills are. And this is with him usually not having the luxury of playing with his star player to make his drives easier. Green's gone through stretches this season where he was the first option on the perimeter. Most players who are normally tertiary play-makers aren't better.

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    White can shoot the 3 and has an all around offensive game. For a supposed elite poster you should already know this. Murray and White are the future backcourt.
    Lol murray. U dumb

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    Bell got hurt again. Might have to switch our "greener grass" complaints to Bolden instead.

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    As I've said many times, it seems like PATFO were completely expect Danny to be gone this summer. That's the only way to explain White, Paul, Hanga and Simmons all being shown interest. Unlike some posters on ST, I imagine that Pop knows he can't just expect a random player to come in and do what Danny has done over the past seven seasons. Getting four guys who all have different strengths and levels of experience was the best way to start a compe ion. Paul opting for the trade looks like it caught the team by surprise (as it did most fans, I think). Then missing out on Kyrie by being unable to trade LMA for Jackson sank that opportunity. They'd likely already secured a deal with Paul at the time and thought they'd have more money for Hanga too.

    One of the reasons Green may have gotten a new agent is because the Spurs have told him that if he opts out, he's gone. It would be a really, really ty thing for Pop to do one summer after giving Mills and Pau big money, but being ty to Green has never bothered Pop before. Whether Danny stays on the bench or comes back as a starter, he could be an impact player for the teams for years still, but at some point, the team is going to have to change the guard, so not paying Danny loyalty money isn't inherently bad. If they can clean up their cap by summer 2019 while giving their young guys real rotation spots, it could be the key to winning another le. I just don't have a ton of faith that PATFO are looking at this correctly, and if they let Danny go, it will just be because they truly think Mills is a more important player to the roster going forward. And that's ing dumb.
    I have thought some more about Danny. I don't think the Spurs told him he's gone if he opts out... but he must want to get paid and read the tea leaves with Kiwi's supermax and the contracts the Spurs gave the past summer.

    Think about this, he's a better player than Mills, and although Pau is still capable of putting up stats they are tending to be of the "empty calories" variety. Danny is still a player that helps you win games, specially if you have a star. He was an all nba 2nd team defender last season and this season has stood on his own defensively, outside of Kawhi's shadow.

    Thinks about this:




    Danny knows his value, his agent knows his value. He is looking for his last big contract. Considering possible trades in the future (bc he's already been in trade rumors and that is part of the business), he's got to look out for his bottom line. Spurs may not be able to afford him. I am now thinking they may legit be trying to prop up Mills' value like MaNu4Tres argues to trade him instead. There is a lot to be gained by trading Mills:
    1. Opens up playing time for their young draft picks,
    2. Opens up the possibility for them picking up a FA,
    3. They have FA of their own that they need to pay or they will simply lose them.

    It's a speculation obviously, but If I am right, the Spurs will not tank even if the playoffs seem out of the picture. It's not just the fact that they are late to start tanking, it's also that they have a veteran team whose players' market value will decline if they aren't playing. Like DAvis starting for Gasol depletes Gasol's value, promotes a narrative that he's washed up, etc. That may have influenced the Spurs returning him to the starting lineup just as much as Gasol whining about it. They already saw whatever they wanted to see out of Davis during the short stint he had starting games. They probably also have a better idea of how much Davis is worth to them. I figure if they fall out of playoff contention, boosting trade value for veterans under contract and determining value of players who are going to be FA is probably a priority (like Kyle, Davis and Bryn, who all got a lot of playing time for different reasons). I bet they will work on reintegrating Rudy as best they can, and figuring out thigns in preparation for the offseason.
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    Yeah, I'm sure Danny wants a big contract. So do a lot of players. Thing is, the market timing sucks for him - there's not a lot of space. Look at potentially available cap space :
    http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/2018/
    I figure there are 6-8 teams that can really offer a contract beyond the MLE (~8.5 Million 1st year), and he's not rating as a top level FA:
    http://hoopshype.com/2018/02/13/nba-...e-top-players/
    Hoopshype has him as 35th.
    He's going to have a HARD time getting a contract beyond the MLE...Unless the Spurs put a "corporate knowledge" contract in front of him.

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    In 2018..

    Better than Manu.

    Better than Tony.

    Better than Patty.

    Better than Bryn.

    Better than Paul.

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    CIA pop is going to stunt his growth on purpose to prevent other teams wanting him after his rookie contract and allowing the Spurs to resign him cheap.

    I swear some of the stuff pop fluffers say on this board is gold.

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    One of them needs to shot the three. Your theory is dumb as .

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    In 2018..

    Better than Manu.

    Better than Tony.

    Better than Patty.

    Better than Bryn.

    Better than Paul.
    Just Facts.

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    Positions don't matter. He can play SG and still be a great passer like Manu. I see him as a back up lead guard 6th man type of impact player -- whether thats at the PG or SG position, that is irrelevant.
    But since he can play PG, it would be a shame to play him at SG. The lesser midgets we have to play, the better.

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    I think people are really underestimating the idea that Pop WANTS to run two-PG lineups. It's not just a quirk of the current roster. He built it to be this way, and he put Danny on notice saying he'd be moved in an effort to bring in a PG. There were rumors the year before that too with Conley. I don't think the idea of Murray and White both being PGs and starting bothers Pop in the slightest, and I'm frankly surprised that it bothers so many STers, given how many folks complain about Green not having a good enough floor game. Murray's offensive limitations but a ceiling on what the duo could accomplish, but the idea of having two guards playing interchangably on both ends hardly seems like a cause for concern.
    See above: the lesser midgets we have to play, the better.

    Knowing how Pop is a defensive minded coach first, I doubt he's all that cool with two PG's lineups. But if he is, it's just further proof of how out of touch he is with how today's NBA should be played.
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    Give Derrick all of Patty minutes. Every. Single. One. Of. Them.

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    Give Derrick all of Patty minutes. Every. Single. One. Of. Them.
    I agree.

    It is true that Mills should be at zero minutes.

    Maybe he could be a specialist at the end of quarters.

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