jury might agree with you. i think the charge is justified
He joined the mob in chasing him. And his comments afterwards certify that he was a hostile actor.
jury might agree with you. i think the charge is justified
NPCs haven't really thought it out.
If the justification for lethal defense were to be such a low bar, we'd all be pretty ed.
Naw, that. You don't slap another man. Those are grounds for getting stomped out.
Chasing a guy with a high-powered gun is pretty ing stupid in the first place.
It's a shame that Darwinism wasn't in full effect on that one.
could say the same about open carrying during widespread protests/riots to defend somebody else's property
Bro, he reached out and repelled a man reaching for his spray.
Stop acting like this was some bold strike.
Not really. "Survival of the fittest" seems to be in his favor on that one.
From the photos he’s clearly drawing it before he was maced. That single photo is what is going to him.
spurraider21
Do you think the guy who did the flying kick on KR should be charged?
I’m not confused at all. I already said there was no crime committed when he pulled his gun after being assaulted. The escalation wasn’t the crime. I clearly said using lethal force against non-lethal was the crime.
drawing =/= brandishing. drawing a weapon as somebody was just assaulting you isnt in and of itself unreasonable. neither is discharging it while they are in the process of macing you, imo
probably
Didn’t the last guy to get shot charge him with an illegally possessed handgun drawn? That’s going to be a tough one for the jury.
lets be honest it was a slap and slapper backed off. It wasn’t illegal to draw but it was ing stupid and against any sort of training taught in concealed carry classes.
mace isn’t a lethal weapon, the escalation to lethal force was a crime.neither is discharging it while they are in the process of macing you, imo
What charges would you like to see?
like i said to derp, a jury might agree with him.
the guy did have a handgun drawn but also stopped before kyle with his hands in the air before trying to get out of there
agreed. i dont think drawing a weapon that you are legally allowed to draw is going to be held against him in a self defense claim. the whole "it was stupid but not illegal" narrative is basically what i applied to rittenhouse showing up to riots with a rifle as if he was going to be able to do anything besides stir up
i dont think a lethal weapon is required to satisfy the reasonable fear of great bodily injury elementmace isn’t a lethal weapon, the escalation to lethal force was a crime.
not too familiar with wisconsin specific law... but assault/battery seems pretty clear. i'm sure he'll try to raise the defense that he was of the reasonable belief he was disarming an active gunman who had earlier killed somebody, though i'm skeptical that would fly
I would bet he's facing no charges whatsoever.
i believe that's accurate, though the question you asked is what i think should happen
It would weaken the already politically compromised prosecutor's case against KR.
I am not taking a legal side here, you guys are much more knowledgeable in that realm.
I am just merely pointing out that if the gun was not present, you dont have a dead fat guy.
IMO because a gun was present, the outcome had a greater chance of becoming deadly.
People value their pride more than a life.
This self protection stuff by deadly weapon is just ... deadly.
Does anyone run anymore? Just get the out and find out whats up later. There are witnesses.
Personally I think (know) I could beat the fck out of fat man, but I would not, I would get out first.
We have seen too many of these incidents with people carrying guns TALKING and then someone dies.
Or incidents escalate because someone has a piece. The Captain America comes out in them.
We need to just go back to a crowd a fisticuffs. A face can get fixed.
Its sickening. People need to see "understand" the damage metal at high speeds does to a body, they just dont get it.
Rant over.
Irony of ironies; that gun was there because of the gun-hating media.
Apparently they don't believe their own bull .
But they expect gullible you to believe it.
What?
wtf are you saying...
Derp has coping ptsd and that is just his paranoia blathering gibberish.
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