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    rofl rofl

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    They should rename this thread "Reign in Bload"

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    NewsTarget.com printable article
    Originally published January 9 2008

    HPV Vaccine Researcher Criticizes Drug Marketing as "Public Health Experiment"

    by David Gutierrez

    (NewsTarget) A researcher who has spent 20 years studying human papillomavirus (HPV) and did the bulk of the work that was used to develop a vaccine for several strains of the virus has warned that mandating the vaccine for girls under the age of 18 may actually backfire, causing cervical cancer rates to go up.

    Twenty-six states are considering some form of mandatory HPV vaccination for school-age girls.

    Diane M. Harper, director of Dartmouth Medical School's Gynecologic Cancer Prevention Research Group at the Norris Cotton Cancer Center in New Hampshire, warned that there have been no tests of the vaccine's effectiveness on girls under the age of 15. The drug may not be effective on younger girls, and it may have unforeseen side effects or interactions with other vaccines given at that age. Nonetheless, the Centers for Disease Control's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices has recommended it for ages 9-26.

    "Giving it to 11-year-olds is a great big public health experiment," Harper said. "To mandate now is simply to Merck's benefit, and only to Merck's benefit."


    The HPV vaccine produced by Merck protects against two strains of the virus that have been identified as responsible for 70 percent of cervical cancer cases. But with the way the drug is being marketed, Harper is concerned that vaccinated women may decide that they are immune, and forego their yearly Pap smear testing.

    Harper also warned that the vaccine is ineffective if given to someone who is already infected -- and because HPV is spread by skin-to-skin contact, a person does not have to be sexually active to contract it. For this reason, Harper suggests giving the vaccine only to those who test negative for the targeted HPV strains.

    The HPV test is conducted by vaginal swab, which Harper says is inappropriate for children.

    Finally, Harper warned that not enough research has been done to know how long the vaccine lasts, or at what age a booster may be needed. This means that even if the vaccine is effective in young girls, it may have worn off by the age at which they are most susceptible to cervical cancer.

    "The push for mandatory vaccination is based on marketing, not science," added Mike Adams, author of numerous articles that oppose mandatory vaccination policies. "It's nothing but a clever Big Pharma scheme to sell more drugs to yet more people who don't need them."

    http://www.newstarget.com/022478.html

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    Originally published January 9 2008

    "The push for mandatory vaccination is based on marketing, not science," added Mike Adams, author of numerous articles that oppose mandatory vaccination policies. "It's nothing but a clever Big Pharma scheme to sell more drugs to yet more people who don't need them."
    gulp.

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    Now let me get this straight if the state mandates this then what? There has to be a way to refuse the drug.

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    Texas allows parents to opt out of inoculations by filing an affidavit stating that he or she objected to the vaccine for religious or philosophical reasons.

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    Bogus study claims Gardasil is safe

    Dear Friend,

    There's so many conflicting reports floating around about Gardasil that it can be tough for parents to know what to believe. And a recent study in the Journal of the American Medical Association only clouds the issue even further.

    The study claims that Gardasil's side effects are rare and continue to occur at the same rate they did in the clinical trials.

    But what they don't tell you is that those trials were a sham.

    Instead of giving the control group a true placebo, they gave them one that was aluminum-based. To the untrained eye, this can make the results look convincing--and that's what the drug company is banking on.

    But the truth is, the aluminum-based placebo pills alone can cause side effects like nerve damage, the deck was stacked. So it's no wonder the drug wasn't that bad compared to the placebo--they were both equally dangerous!

    But the cat's already out of the bag, and a growing number of doctors, researchers and parents aren't being fooled by these clinical shenanigans. You won't be fooled, either when you see the damage it's doing.

    Dozens of little girls have died after getting this vaccine. Others have experienced disabling nerve damage, and some have even gotten ALS -- Lou Gehrig's disease.

    That may be why the editors of JAMA decided to run an editorial alongside this new study questioning whether this vaccine offers any benefit over a pap smear.

    Allow me to answer: It doesn't.

    Even one of the top researchers behind the vaccine's clinical trials, who has been paid by Merck to speak about its supposed wonders, is now publicly questioning it.

    No, I didn't just make that up. Dr. Diane Harper told CBS News in August that some of the side effects could make the vaccine riskier than the cervical cancer it's supposed to stop.

    Remember, this is the same company that rushed Vioxx through the system, and we know how that turned out. Some folks even say Merck's HPV vaccine really stands for "Help Pay for Vioxx."

    Here's the answer we should all give them: Not at the expense of our daughters' health.

    www.douglassreport.com

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    Yup

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    I do have to agree that this thread was the shining moment of the Mookie Crew's history. When elpimpo or thispego or whoever it was pulled out the mandatory preggo test card, that was some hardcore internets ownage.

    That said, since a member of the Mookie Crew is always ready with a contrarian viewpoint in every thread in existence on SpursTalk, this thread seems more and more like the outlier. You throw a contrarian take at every thread, one is bound to stick.

    The Mookie Crew's New Years resolution should be to up their contrarian to success ratio.

    nobody has ever murdered more women in a single thread than 4cc in this one

    classic

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    Instead of giving the control group a true placebo, they gave them one that was aluminum-based. To the untrained eye, this can make the results look convincing--and that's what the drug company is banking on.
    Wow.

    As I looked this up, you are right. Aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate used as the placebo, is the most dangerous part of the vaccine!

    Sodium borate is also in the vaccine. Not nice stuff.

    Here is an interesting link:

    Gardasil Vaccine Ingredients
    Last edited by Wild Cobra; 11-24-2009 at 04:31 PM.

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    rofl @ timvp's classic failed contrarian ploy



    timvpluva would have eaten this one up

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    Yes. There is a difference between being contrarian and always right. Sorry if we're so knowledgeable!

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    "New numbers reveal more Gardasil deaths

    Exposed!

    Newly uncovered do ents reveal that the world's most tragic and dangerous public health experiment has claimed more young victims.

    Gardasil, Merck's horrifically bad HPV vaccine being pushed on little girls around the world, has been linked to 16 more deaths -- including four suicides -- and thousands of other terrifying side effects.

    Even more outrageous, the feds have been busy trying to cover it up -- because instead of immediately warning the public and ending the program, they tried to hide all the damning evidence.

    The FDA only came clean when forced to by the law after Judicial Watch filed a demand for the data under the Freedom of Information Act.

    And in addition to the dozens of deaths already linked to this vaccine, FDA do ents obtained by Judicial Watch revealed 16 new deaths between May 2009 and last month.

    That's one young life needlessly cut short every month.

    The FDA papers also revealed 3,589 new cases of adverse events after Gardasil vaccinations, including 789 "serious" cases, 213 that led to permanent disability, and 25 diagnoses of the debilitating and paralyzing nervous system disorder Guillain-Barre Syndrome.

    And for what? For nothing!

    Despite its poorly chosen nickname, all this "cervical cancer vaccine" really offers is very limited protection from some of the strains of HPV that can cause the disease -- and researchers say even that can wear off in just a few years.

    It's a clear case of "all risk and no benefit," but that hasn't stopped Big Pharma from pushing to have Gardasil added to the list of required vaccinations for school.

    Virginia has even made it a law. But if you happen to live in that state, don't be intimidated by these bully tactics: You can spare your own daughter by simply refusing to let them stick her with this poison.

    Just stick to your guns. One parent named in the new report said she initially declined the vaccination for her daughter, but was talked into it by the doctor.

    Five weeks later, her 13-year-old girl was dead.

    One more note: I'm old enough to remember when Pravda, the old Soviet news agency, was the Kremlin's comically relentless propaganda wing. Today, the Pravda Web site has better reporting on Gardasil than you'll find in most Western newspapers, with one recent article pointing out all the vaccine's ugly flaws and accusing Merck of ignoring its own research.

    I still don't truskie the Russkies on most issues, but it just goes to show how our own pro-Big Pharma media has become a propaganda machine of its own."

    http://clicks.douglassreport.com//t/...AQ/AcO5yw/jMbh

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    Even more outrageous, the feds have been busy trying to cover it up -- because instead of immediately warning the public and ending the program, they tried to hide all the damning evidence.

    The FDA only came clean when forced to by the law after Judicial Watch filed a demand for the data under the Freedom of Information Act.

    And in addition to the dozens of deaths already linked to this vaccine, FDA do ents obtained by Judicial Watch revealed 16 new deaths between May 2009 and last month.

    That's one young life needlessly cut short every month.

    The FDA papers also revealed 3,589 new cases of adverse events after Gardasil vaccinations, including 789 "serious" cases, 213 that led to permanent disability, and 25 diagnoses of the debilitating and paralyzing nervous system disorder Guillain-Barre Syndrome.
    One has to laugh at anybody still foolish or naive enough to believe that any government-related org is looking out for the interests of the people.

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    Rofl damn this was el classico- will someone please think of the children!

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    The FDA, USDA, SEC, Treasury, etc regulatory agencies are corrupted and captured by corporations.

    The govt is simply a proxy and policeman for the corps.

    There effectively no way to correct this mess. The agences are part of the Exec, implementing rules from bills made by Legislators, all of whom are also corrupted by the corporations. The situation is beyond remediation.

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    btw, while some vaccines have been wonderful successes, flu vaccines are a huge scam.

    The Supreme Court has case now to decide whether kids destroyed by vaccines have the right to sue. My guess is the extreme right-wing, business friendly court will, again, protect the corporations.

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    who all was wrong in this thread? can't remember? someone go back and check for me, lol

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    I don't remember either. I just know seeing this thread again reminded me to call for an appt for my daughter's second shot before it's too late and she has to start over

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    "New numbers reveal more Gardasil deaths

    Exposed!

    Newly uncovered do ents reveal that the world's most tragic and dangerous public health experiment has claimed more young victims.

    Gardasil, Merck's horrifically bad HPV vaccine being pushed on little girls around the world, has been linked to 16 more deaths -- including four suicides -- and thousands of other terrifying side effects.

    Even more outrageous, the feds have been busy trying to cover it up -- because instead of immediately warning the public and ending the program, they tried to hide all the damning evidence.

    The FDA only came clean when forced to by the law after Judicial Watch filed a demand for the data under the Freedom of Information Act.

    And in addition to the dozens of deaths already linked to this vaccine, FDA do ents obtained by Judicial Watch revealed 16 new deaths between May 2009 and last month.

    That's one young life needlessly cut short every month.

    The FDA papers also revealed 3,589 new cases of adverse events after Gardasil vaccinations, including 789 "serious" cases, 213 that led to permanent disability, and 25 diagnoses of the debilitating and paralyzing nervous system disorder Guillain-Barre Syndrome.

    And for what? For nothing!

    Despite its poorly chosen nickname, all this "cervical cancer vaccine" really offers is very limited protection from some of the strains of HPV that can cause the disease -- and researchers say even that can wear off in just a few years.

    It's a clear case of "all risk and no benefit," but that hasn't stopped Big Pharma from pushing to have Gardasil added to the list of required vaccinations for school.

    Virginia has even made it a law. But if you happen to live in that state, don't be intimidated by these bully tactics: You can spare your own daughter by simply refusing to let them stick her with this poison.

    Just stick to your guns. One parent named in the new report said she initially declined the vaccination for her daughter, but was talked into it by the doctor.

    Five weeks later, her 13-year-old girl was dead.

    One more note: I'm old enough to remember when Pravda, the old Soviet news agency, was the Kremlin's comically relentless propaganda wing. Today, the Pravda Web site has better reporting on Gardasil than you'll find in most Western newspapers, with one recent article pointing out all the vaccine's ugly flaws and accusing Merck of ignoring its own research.

    I still don't truskie the Russkies on most issues, but it just goes to show how our own pro-Big Pharma media has become a propaganda machine of its own."

    http://clicks.douglassreport.com//t/...AQ/AcO5yw/jMbh
    Would have been nice if he had included some links to the studies. Now all I see is an anti-pasteurization screed.

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    Do ALL girl need it, or only the ones having sex?

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    Do ALL girl need it, or only the ones having sex?
    Girls should have it before they become sexually active.

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    I don't remember either. I just know seeing this thread again reminded me to call for an appt for my daughter's second shot before it's too late and she has to start over
    cervical cancer is the least of your worries mrsmaalox

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