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Murray's got nothing to do with White. White put that dude in the rearview mirror and is the real deal. Murray's all talk and selfies.
Quit being a hater mane! Seems like this post is trying to figure out why dude gets some much love. Even if he sucks and can’t hoopln a professional level, he’s still popular. So why you worried if he lives up to his potential? Hating ass z mane on this site.
Murray's got nothing to do with White. White put that dude in the rearview mirror and is the real deal. Murray's all talk and selfies.
KL made himself a better shooter. If Chip was so great, Spurs would be signing athletes and turning them into shooters. not signing guys like Mills and Forbes and Belli who can already shoot the three (and do nothing else)
Derrick White is not the first unknown guard drafted by the Spurs being immature and fantastically developed by the coaches.
DeJounte Murray progressed as well in his two first seasons in San Antonio and he was looking definitely better this pre-season. At the end of the past season, his game began to look solid both in offense and defense. I recommend everybody here to have a look at the preseason games.
He was running the offense and calling the plays with self-assertion on a classic PG role. I'm not sure how can that fit with White and DeRozan on the court at the same time. Anyway that shouldn't be a problem. I'd like to have him or Derrick coming off the bench leading the second unit in starter minutes ala Manu Ginobili.
DJ's jump shooting mechanics looked much better in October and he was more confident too, there are a lot of hours of work behind that. He will put much more until next season starts so I'm pretty sure Murray will be above the 0.300 and I'd say around 0.333 3pt% at least, especially from the corners. Again, please review October games.
I don't think he's the ideal guard defender, but Derrick White does. White is better guarding dribblers and avoiding contact in p&r situations. Murray is more of a disruptive positional defender: long, strong and active away from the ball, he's a passing-lane nightmare, a potential pest helping out and a multi-use switch all defender. His team will run more fastbreak thanks to his deflections and steals. His amazing ability to rebound the ball guarantees the team will dictate the preferred tempo.
I can definitely see DeRozan, Murray and White sharing the court in the clutch time next season as Poetl is replaced by Gay or Bertans for those final minutes. Opp teams will display at least 4 shooters at the same time in order to find decent shooting options. DDR is improving his defense and will continue doing it so I'm optimistic about next season defense when closing a game is needed. Offensive performance range goes from meh to Wow depending on how much DeMarr and DeJounte improve their three-point threat.
Future is bright as long as everybody is healthy.
PD. Please remove Forbes from future plans, there is no reason for him to be anything else than a bench filler. Mills, Bertans, Belinelli, are shooters too but better overall players and team has to sign a free agent that probably will be a forward that can score from the three-point line.
playerfans aka enrique fans have nothing to fall back on, so they prop up this scrub in player comparability talks aka white...
Who takes on that salary? And who or what are we having to include and eho and what do we get back? Not criticizing the take, just wondering if there's even a potential target out there?
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Will never happen... And Bruce was clutch... This guy is a choker that can't shoot threes... Horrible combo for a team that wants to win a ring to have from ur ball dominant star player
True that but will his shooting be natural for him? I guess that's what remains to be seen.
Who takes the salary? I was just chatting with another poster who thinks DeMar is all-star caliber, so there are a lot of different ideas about how hard his salary is to swallow. Before the deadline, I suggested some trades involving Covington before he was shipped to Minnesota. I personally would trade DeMar for Otto Porter, Jr. with the right to swap Toronto's pick for Washington's 1st. I admit I haven't really scouted the league to see who I might trade him for. I think Washington would be interested in something along those lines. There might be a good 3-team deal that would get it done...
Not sure what you mean by "natural for him". When a good shooting coach, such as Chip, re-tools a players poor shooting stroke, it seems to me that by definition the player is moving away from his "natural" stroke and adopting mechanics that are "unnatural" - at least at the outset. That's why repe ion under the tutelage of a good coach is so important. Eventually muscle memory will take over, and the stroke will become more "natural", but in the process, a good coach needs to be vigilant to constantly correct the mechanics in the re-tooling.
And you're basing this information on...... what, exactly?
Do you think a player just wakes up and goes "hmmm maybe I won't shoot 25% from college 3 point range anymore" and it just happens?
He was already a decent shooter by the time the Spurs drafted him. There are DX interviews where he's talking about all the work he'd put in so team could think of him as a two-guard. What is less talked-about is that Chip haf actually given Kawhi some shooting tips when the club secretly met with Leonard. So both are true. Kawhi didn't show up to SA as an awful shooter and the Spurs did a lot to help Kawhi progress in that area.
lol murrays fg% inside 3pt line... how many is from jumpshots?
For whoever it was complaining about Murray shooting floaters, here's an excerpt from an article raving about Trae Young's ability to shoot the floater:
Often lauded for his court vision and basketball intelligence, it is also worth noting that the 20-year-old already has displayed one of the NBA’s best floating jump shots. Also referred to as a floater or a teardrop or a runner, it’s an invaluable asset as it’s an efficient look from the short mid-range zone.
“It’s very important to have that in my arsenal,” said Young, “It keeps the defenders who are guarding me off their balance because they do not necessarily know if I’m going to shoot a floater or throw a lob or continue to try to get a layup.”
Murray needs to improve his shooting from distance to complement his skills near the basket. I mentioned in another thread, I hope White spends the summer learning to shoot the floater. They'll both be better players next season.
Really looking forward to next season.
So Chip cant teach Spur playa how to shoot free throws?
They have been for ages shooting them, dont rely too much on that Chip thing.
Kawhi is an exception he had a very high ceiling, Dejuan Blair and lots of other guys were not shooting 3s, what about Bonner? Daye?
Imo. Free throw shooting has a lot to do with how tired you are as well. Spurs have been work horses, playing defense, banging with others, hustling, by the time they get to the free throw line they are tired and their arms are heavier.
LOL you are being obtuse and you know it. KL put in the work.
How come Chip couldn't fix Kyle Anderson's shot?
Why was Green shooting so poorly his last three years here?
why do the Spurs not bring in athletic defenders and improve their three-point shooting?
What other player besides KL had his 3-point shot improved in SA in the last 5 Years?
Bertans, Gay, and Forbes are all shooting the best 3pt%s of their careers this year.
Shooting coaches can't work miracles every day, but there's a reason Chip has been employed by the Spurs for a long time and enjoys such a great reputation in the league.
Bertans and Forbes are 3 point specialists.
Is not like they were not long shooters and Chip made a miracle with them.
Both have been what? 3 seasons?
Rudy Gay had almost 40% in 2011 then he got injured, traded and played in ty teams, this is his first good team since MEM.
So that 42% is not a miracle, now his team has a game plan.
It's a combination. You can't become a great shooter if you don't practice. But practicing bad technique makes you good at shooting poorly. So Chip teaches or refines technique, but players have to put in the work. Chip turned Tony Parker into a deadly midrange shooter. When Parker first got in the league, I remember teams packing the paint and daring him to shoot jumpers because they knew defenders could not stay in front of him if they extended beyond the paint. When they did that, Parker became useless on offense. But once he got that midrange down, he became borderline unguardable. Now Parker never became an effective three point shooter, but he didn't need to be because he created so many open 3s with his drives. He just had to have enough space to put pressure on the defense at the rim.
Give Chip his due. I am in the camp that says no Chip for KL then he becomes just a defensive specialist maybe averaging 14 ppg tops.
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