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No chance LA does this. They aren’t taking back a two year contract unless its a decent player. McDs final year greatly impacts there ability to sign a 3rd star in 2023.
CLE getting better might make it harder for CHA to make the playoffs thus jeopardizing the 23 FRP conveying to the Spurs.
No chance LA does this. They aren’t taking back a two year contract unless its a decent player. McDs final year greatly impacts there ability to sign a 3rd star in 2023.
Lol, holy ...just saw that fleecing the Jazz got from Cleveland. I almost feel bad for Mitc . Dude got his nuts clipped before he even got there. He has zero chance to build that team with the draft ruined for the next half decade. And they have no draft picks left to trade for anyone else. WTF fool does that trade?
How the do people get paid millions to be GMs and then do that even the most basic of fans knows is a gross overpay??
I mentioned that if you're u read carefully I was eluding to delaying and being on the fence and content with the years DD was here and LA was averaging pretty good damn numbers that would of put us on our way and we could have kept Murray and be cashing in those assets already plus we had other players that alla Richardson McDermott etc.
totally agree and while they traded 2 all stars we did trade one and we had a jump on our rebuild. So yes they have cleaned up and still can field a decent team. Many think Sexton is a waste but I believe he will develop into above average player to and all star. His shot will only get better and last I saw his perimeter defense was not awful but he can improve defense all around his shooting is already impressive and will only get better he will be another Ingram story at obviously different positions but he will score. Then you factor in those picks they own the drafts. Only bright spot is Knicks fans losing there minds.
3 drafts - Spurs own 2025 unprotected - right after DJ's deal expires.
I like Mobley and Jarrett Allen a lot, but can anyone think of a team starting two 6'1" guards in the backcourt together that has won an NBA championship? The last team I can think of that comes close is the '89 Pistons, who featured a 6'1" Isiah Thomas and a 6'3" Joe Dumars... but Dumars was a defensive specialist, while Donovan Mitc is a defensive liability. I feel like Cleveland is making the same mistake that Utah did, thinking their bigger defender(s) will be able to cover for Mitc 's lack of size and defensive chops at the SG position. Plus Isaac Okoro is now slated to be the starting SF at 6'5". That's an incredibly tiny trio to start at PG, SG, and SF. They'll be giving up a massive size disadvantage to every team they face.
You're not wrong in that it's not ideal when it comes to championship contention, however, it's a step in the right direction. Every time you could get a top 15 player (or so) without losing any of your top 3 you do it and resolve the issues after that. Ideally for them they'd replace Okoro and LeVert with two true 3 and D wings and they might be short on assets to do it. Also, Mitc can at least be passable defensively if he gave a little bit of effort, which he wasn't doing in Utah.
I stand corrected. Cheers.
Ainge has done his ruthless job; this part seems to fit him. It would be hilarious if they now fire him and find someone else to actually rebuild the team.
They aren’t done either:
- Clarkson probably gets you another first. Direct compe ion for us trying to move JRich
- Bogdanovic is an expiring 19mm contract coming off a solid season
- Conley two years left 47mm only 14mm guaranteed in year 2
Clarkson/Bogdanovich will net them two more FRPs easily.
Yeah, except JRich actually plays defense, and passes once in a while.
I agree I’d rather JRich but you can’t sit here and tell me he doesn’t have value around the league same way Lou Will and Crawford did before him.Yeah, except JRich actually plays defense, and passes once in a while.
Damn. I forgot how many assets they have. Yeah, they can go in a lot of directions. Ainge isn’t likely done trying yet, but other trades might be down the road.
Cleveland’s turn around is quite impressive. I don’t love that they went all in on Mitc as I think they should have trusted their process a little more but this could certainly pay off and neither Sexton nor Lauri were long term pieces to the puzzle.
Boggles my mind how anyone can stand behind the view PATFO is still a top tier front office these days. There are so many astute GMs out there these days who are better.
Oh, I know. I just don’t think they’re competing against each other for trade spots. A loose Spurs based analogy would be Clarkson as Patty, and JRich as DVerde.
What Utah had to trade was better: a multi time All Star and a multi time All NBA player. You get more for that than a one time injury replacement All Star.
murray isn't close to being what mitc is as a player. posters who are equating mitc to murray are just being sloppy or disingenuous.
Cleveland core 4 is all what under 25. They have done an excellent job. People don't want to wait 15 years to win. Philly and there process of being or thinking they are the smartest team has gotten them nothing. During that process what's left Embid??? I know Maxey is a ascending but he wasn't part of that process. They have bombed on players what saves them is spending money and still they win nothing. The spurs won't be afforded that same luxury if we don't hit on players in this market I've said it over and over they will go off into irrelevantcy or have to move. They must hit on players and pay them if they do. Hopefully draw a free agent but once pop is gone love him or hate him that last draw and mystique goes with him making it even harder to get someone to sign. Their task is daunting to say the least.
Pop isn’t a draw for players who are established. He is a deterrent.
Once Pop retires, we finally bottom out which means a chance at real talent is possible via the lottery. They probably still fk up those first few top picks by choosing character over talent but eventually years of being one of the worst teams in the NBA with little to show for it the new PATFO will increasingly be held accountable by fans and ownership and a culture shift and true rebuild will begin.
Get Victor next year and you'll be soon relevant again.
I think their problem was how they handled moving on from Leonard, what a show, but I don’t see any huge problems right now with what Brian Wright is doing, as far as I can tell.
Completely Disagree
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All we can do is hope while we watch helplessly.
In today's NBA, you can't count on virtually anything long term. It's a good amount of talent, but unless Mobley can become it (and even if he is, it's doubtful he'll be a 1st option on a contender), they lack a superstar, have questionable 4-5 spacing, no 3 and D wings and are reliant on two small guards.
Of course they could separate from that mid tier, but I don't see a championship formula.
Despite the agenda driven media predictably gushing and playing their usual narrative/mythologizing game, Ainge did the logical thing and had immense leverage. The job mostly comes down to a combination of luck and not shooting yourself in the foot.
One thing I will give the Cavaliers credit for, was signing Markkanen. They didn't care about fit defensively and instead focused on a rare case of a decent young asset available essentially for free and one year later parlayed him into part of a blockbuster trade.
This is why signing someone like him always makes more sense than signing someone like McDermott.
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