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    Good news and good points all.

    What happens to the mortality rate if the health care system gets overwhelmed?
    Mortality rate would obviously rise, but hospital CEO's don't seem worried about being overwhelmed with this surge.

    Hospital CEOs from Houston’s Largest Hospital Systems Discuss Capacity and COVID-19 Surge Plans

    THE WOODLANDS, TX – Hospital CEO’s including, Dr. Marc Boom with Houston Methodist, Dr. David L. Callender with Memorial Hermann Health System, Dr. Doug Lawson with St. Luke’s Health, and Mark A. Wallace with Texas Children’s Hospital, held a zoom conference, June 25, out of concern, “that recent news coverage has unnecessarily alarmed the Houston community about hospital capacity during this COVID-19 surge.”

    The two key major takeaways from today’s discussion: The Houston health care system has the resources and capacity necessary to treat patients with COVID-19 and otherwise, as well as the reiteration that it is vitally important for our community to do its part in order to flatten this new surge.

    The following are statements made by each CEO that summarize their key points –

    Dr. Marc Boom with Houston Methodist

    “What you’ve been hearing is a report that we are at 97 percent or so capacity across the Texas medical center. At Houston Methodist, we’re somewhere in the low 90s right now in terms of capacity of ICU beds, but let me put that in perspective … June 25 2019, exactly one year ago … It was at 95 percent. We are highly experienced at utilizing our ICU beds for the sickest of the sick patients day in day out … and it is completely normal for us to have ICU capacities that run in the 80s and 90s. That’s how all of us operate hospitals, and how all hospitals operate.”

    “The capacity that’s being reported is base capacity … we have the ability to go far higher than that in terms of the ICU beds that we can utilize for COVID.”

    “We have, across Houston Methodist, 24 hundred beds 330 or so of those are our ICU beds on a normal day, but there is an ability to flex beds back and forth. We can turn regular beds into ICU as we need to with appropriate staff, ventilators, and other equipment. We can turn many other areas in the hospital like some of the recovery areas, pre and post surgical areas, and places like that into ICUs.”

    “We are seeing younger patients, we are seeing a shorter length of stay, we are seeing lower immortality, and we are seeing lower ICU utilization right now.”

    “People need to come to the hospital when they have clinical issues … People need to come to the hospital or emergency department to receive care and not allow bad things to happen to them because they are somehow inaccurately afraid of coming to the hospitals. That’s a very key message.”

    “The time is now, as Houstonians, to band together and act like the can-do Houstonians that we are, and do all of the right things, and that means every single person in the community needs to be wearing a mask when they’re outside of the home, they need to avoid leaving the home or avoid going to social places or places where they congregate together whenever possible, they need to keep socially distanced, they need to do obsessive levels of hand hygiene. We’ve done that for months in our hospitals and we keep our employees and patients safe. We can do that across other businesses, across our lives, and get this virus level back down.”

    ---------

    Dr. Doug Lawson with St. Luke’s Health

    “Running a major hospital health system is truly as much of an art as it is a science. We work hard to staff to the volumes that we’re seeing on a day to day basis, and if we’re doing our jobs well we’re really matching our staffing to the patients who need us on a day to day basis.”

    “The reality is our capacity to care for those patients significantly exceeds what we’re staffing on any given day … we’re also actively planning for anticipated increases over the coming weeks and months.”

    As you look at the capacity of the hospitals on a day-to-day basis, it can be a little misleading. The reality is all of us have the ability to significantly expand capacity on a day-to-day, week-to-week, month-to-month basis.”

    “Our hospitals are incredibly safe. We have learned how to make better use of our PPE, we have stock piled appropriate numbers of PPE so that that is no longer the issue that it was early on in the disease process, our clinicians are much more comfortable caring for the patients than they ever were, and the hospitals are really doing quite well in caring for these patients.”

    “The businesses across Houston, we’re asking you directly to reinforce [safety guidelines] within your business areas, monitor your capacity, make sure that [there is] adequate room for people to move about safely within your organizations.”

    “We’re all concerned about the spread of this virus… the reality is we have to do a better job [with] hand hygiene, and socially distancing ourselves. The spread is increasing and incredibly concerning, however our hospitals are okay and ready to manage this surge appropriately and effectively.”

    ---------

    Mark A. Wallace with Texas Children’s Hospital

    Texas Children’s Hospital is the largest children’s hospital in the country. “This morning’s census is down because we really just started building back up our elective procedures and admissions …[it’s] really high for a children’s hospital, but it’s low for Texas Children’s Hospital ... our census this morning is 581 patients. That’s a 68 percent occupancy. Typically Children’s Texas Hospital this time of year without the pandemic, our census would be running much much closer to 700, 725, maybe even 750, so much closer to 90 or 95 percent.”

    “One day last November, our census hit 823 in one single day and our employees and our medical staff managed that and it really wasn’t a problem or an issue … so we know that we can flex up to 823 should that be necessary.”

    “Of our 859 operational beds, 355 of them are ICU and NICU beds … [today] we have 43 empty vacant ICU beds. That’s a 74 percent occupancy.”

    “We are taking care of COVID pediatric patients and we have been since the very inception and as was announced earlier this week we have already started accepting referrals from some of the adult hospitals in Houston … and that speaks to the fact that we do have capacity … we have plenty of capacity to take care of the children that need to get to the door step of Children’s Texas Hospital.”

    “We need people to stay at home when they can work at home … it’s imperative that we keep our workforce healthy as we go through this pandemic … We’re asking the public to please help us, help our employees, help our nurses … we need to be serving them, making sure that the community is doing their part to keep them healthy.”

    “All of us on this call today, we approach this from a very mission-oriented basis. We’re going to be here to fulfill our missions, take care of the patients and families that need to be taken care of, and we’re going to take good care of our employees and our medical staff. That’s our promise, that’s our pledge, and that’s what it has been for the Texas Medical Center for nearly 75 years.”

    ---------

    Dr. David L. Callender with Memorial Hermann Health System closed out the meeting with this – “Our goal has been for the hospital operators, the people who actually manage bed capacity, to be clear that we’re not in imminent danger of running out of bed capacity here in Houston to care of COVID patients, or those who have other illnesses that require hospital care. We work every day to manage very complex patients across all of our facilities and are used to making adjustments on the fly, and that’s what we’re currently doing. We think it’s very important for the community to engage, to lock arms, to work a little harder at following these guidelines, using these measures that we’ve now proven in our hospitals will limit the transmission of COVID 19. Please help us help Houston.”

    https://www.woodlandsonline.com/npps...m?nppage=67046

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    I'm hearing that a very large percentage of new cases are presenting with very mild symptoms or asymptomatic. People are being tested now who wouldn't meet criteria in May. Its a good thing for these people to find out their positive status so they can quarantine and avoid vulnerable family members.

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    Possible reasons why the death rate has been falling lately have already been discussed but thanks for that tweet from "trinhomics".

    Be sure to come back if/when the death rate goes back up

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    Mortality rate would obviously rise, but hospital CEO's don't seem worried about being overwhelmed with this surge.

    Hospital CEOs from Houston’s Largest Hospital Systems Discuss Capacity and COVID-19 Surge Plans

    THE WOODLANDS, TX – Hospital CEO’s including, Dr. Marc Boom with Houston Methodist, Dr. David L. Callender with Memorial Hermann Health System, Dr. Doug Lawson with St. Luke’s Health, and Mark A. Wallace with Texas Children’s Hospital, held a zoom conference, June 25, out of concern, “that recent news coverage has unnecessarily alarmed the Houston community about hospital capacity during this COVID-19 surge.”

    The two key major takeaways from today’s discussion: The Houston health care system has the resources and capacity necessary to treat patients with COVID-19 and otherwise, as well as the reiteration that it is vitally important for our community to do its part in order to flatten this new surge.

    The following are statements made by each CEO that summarize their key points –

    Dr. Marc Boom with Houston Methodist

    “What you’ve been hearing is a report that we are at 97 percent or so capacity across the Texas medical center. At Houston Methodist, we’re somewhere in the low 90s right now in terms of capacity of ICU beds, but let me put that in perspective … June 25 2019, exactly one year ago … It was at 95 percent. We are highly experienced at utilizing our ICU beds for the sickest of the sick patients day in day out … and it is completely normal for us to have ICU capacities that run in the 80s and 90s. That’s how all of us operate hospitals, and how all hospitals operate.”

    “The capacity that’s being reported is base capacity … we have the ability to go far higher than that in terms of the ICU beds that we can utilize for COVID.”

    “We have, across Houston Methodist, 24 hundred beds 330 or so of those are our ICU beds on a normal day, but there is an ability to flex beds back and forth. We can turn regular beds into ICU as we need to with appropriate staff, ventilators, and other equipment. We can turn many other areas in the hospital like some of the recovery areas, pre and post surgical areas, and places like that into ICUs.”

    “We are seeing younger patients, we are seeing a shorter length of stay, we are seeing lower immortality, and we are seeing lower ICU utilization right now.”

    “People need to come to the hospital when they have clinical issues … People need to come to the hospital or emergency department to receive care and not allow bad things to happen to them because they are somehow inaccurately afraid of coming to the hospitals. That’s a very key message.”

    “The time is now, as Houstonians, to band together and act like the can-do Houstonians that we are, and do all of the right things, and that means every single person in the community needs to be wearing a mask when they’re outside of the home, they need to avoid leaving the home or avoid going to social places or places where they congregate together whenever possible, they need to keep socially distanced, they need to do obsessive levels of hand hygiene. We’ve done that for months in our hospitals and we keep our employees and patients safe. We can do that across other businesses, across our lives, and get this virus level back down.”

    ---------

    Dr. Doug Lawson with St. Luke’s Health

    “Running a major hospital health system is truly as much of an art as it is a science. We work hard to staff to the volumes that we’re seeing on a day to day basis, and if we’re doing our jobs well we’re really matching our staffing to the patients who need us on a day to day basis.”

    “The reality is our capacity to care for those patients significantly exceeds what we’re staffing on any given day … we’re also actively planning for anticipated increases over the coming weeks and months.”

    As you look at the capacity of the hospitals on a day-to-day basis, it can be a little misleading. The reality is all of us have the ability to significantly expand capacity on a day-to-day, week-to-week, month-to-month basis.”

    “Our hospitals are incredibly safe. We have learned how to make better use of our PPE, we have stock piled appropriate numbers of PPE so that that is no longer the issue that it was early on in the disease process, our clinicians are much more comfortable caring for the patients than they ever were, and the hospitals are really doing quite well in caring for these patients.”

    “The businesses across Houston, we’re asking you directly to reinforce [safety guidelines] within your business areas, monitor your capacity, make sure that [there is] adequate room for people to move about safely within your organizations.”

    “We’re all concerned about the spread of this virus… the reality is we have to do a better job [with] hand hygiene, and socially distancing ourselves. The spread is increasing and incredibly concerning, however our hospitals are okay and ready to manage this surge appropriately and effectively.”

    ---------

    Mark A. Wallace with Texas Children’s Hospital

    Texas Children’s Hospital is the largest children’s hospital in the country. “This morning’s census is down because we really just started building back up our elective procedures and admissions …[it’s] really high for a children’s hospital, but it’s low for Texas Children’s Hospital ... our census this morning is 581 patients. That’s a 68 percent occupancy. Typically Children’s Texas Hospital this time of year without the pandemic, our census would be running much much closer to 700, 725, maybe even 750, so much closer to 90 or 95 percent.”

    “One day last November, our census hit 823 in one single day and our employees and our medical staff managed that and it really wasn’t a problem or an issue … so we know that we can flex up to 823 should that be necessary.”

    “Of our 859 operational beds, 355 of them are ICU and NICU beds … [today] we have 43 empty vacant ICU beds. That’s a 74 percent occupancy.”

    “We are taking care of COVID pediatric patients and we have been since the very inception and as was announced earlier this week we have already started accepting referrals from some of the adult hospitals in Houston … and that speaks to the fact that we do have capacity … we have plenty of capacity to take care of the children that need to get to the door step of Children’s Texas Hospital.”

    “We need people to stay at home when they can work at home … it’s imperative that we keep our workforce healthy as we go through this pandemic … We’re asking the public to please help us, help our employees, help our nurses … we need to be serving them, making sure that the community is doing their part to keep them healthy.”

    “All of us on this call today, we approach this from a very mission-oriented basis. We’re going to be here to fulfill our missions, take care of the patients and families that need to be taken care of, and we’re going to take good care of our employees and our medical staff. That’s our promise, that’s our pledge, and that’s what it has been for the Texas Medical Center for nearly 75 years.”

    ---------

    Dr. David L. Callender with Memorial Hermann Health System closed out the meeting with this – “Our goal has been for the hospital operators, the people who actually manage bed capacity, to be clear that we’re not in imminent danger of running out of bed capacity here in Houston to care of COVID patients, or those who have other illnesses that require hospital care. We work every day to manage very complex patients across all of our facilities and are used to making adjustments on the fly, and that’s what we’re currently doing. We think it’s very important for the community to engage, to lock arms, to work a little harder at following these guidelines, using these measures that we’ve now proven in our hospitals will limit the transmission of COVID 19. Please help us help Houston.”

    https://www.woodlandsonline.com/npps...m?nppage=67046
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    Mortality rate would obviously rise, but hospital CEO's don't seem worried about being overwhelmed with this surge.
    Good to see they have the surge capacity. Odds are looking like they will need it. One has to wonder how much of that was simple "reassure the public' PR.

    Holy moly, we just had our first reasonable, mature exchange in months.

    Yah.

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    I'm hearing that a very large percentage of new cases are presenting with very mild symptoms or asymptomatic. People are being tested now who wouldn't meet criteria in May. Its a good thing for these people to find out their positive status so they can quarantine and avoid vulnerable family members.
    Lol "I'm hearing"

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    Lol "I'm hearing"
    I know people. Now crawl back under your bed.

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    the right is obsessed with retweeting subservient self-loathing asians
    That said, she did post a good link.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53192532

    Better care, and less vulnerable patients being seen.

    Problem with that though, is that the more widespread the disease in the general population the odds of a vulnerable person getting it go up drastically.

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    I know people. Now crawl back under your bed.
    Lol "I know people"

    Go back to your bar ..oh wait

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    I'm hearing that a very large percentage of new cases are presenting with very mild symptoms or asymptomatic. People are being tested now who wouldn't meet criteria in May. Its a good thing for these people to find out their positive status so they can quarantine and avoid vulnerable family members.
    Dovetails with the BBC article. Younger and less vulnerable, which is exactly the same thing one of the CEOs in TSA's article pointed out. Very good to know, and three separate sources.

    I don't think that will hold though, as the virus gets vastly more widespread.

    and

    It is still deadly for the elderly.

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    Mortality rate would obviously rise, but hospital CEO's don't seem worried about being overwhelmed with this surge.

    Hospital CEOs from Houston’s Largest Hospital Systems Discuss Capacity and COVID-19 Surge Plans

    THE WOODLANDS, TX – Hospital CEO’s including, Dr. Marc Boom with Houston Methodist, Dr. David L. Callender with Memorial Hermann Health System, Dr. Doug Lawson with St. Luke’s Health, and Mark A. Wallace with Texas Children’s Hospital, held a zoom conference, June 25, out of concern, “that recent news coverage has unnecessarily alarmed the Houston community about hospital capacity during this COVID-19 surge.”

    The two key major takeaways from today’s discussion: The Houston health care system has the resources and capacity necessary to treat patients with COVID-19 and otherwise, as well as the reiteration that it is vitally important for our community to do its part in order to flatten this new surge.

    The following are statements made by each CEO that summarize their key points –

    Dr. Marc Boom with Houston Methodist

    “What you’ve been hearing is a report that we are at 97 percent or so capacity across the Texas medical center. At Houston Methodist, we’re somewhere in the low 90s right now in terms of capacity of ICU beds, but let me put that in perspective … June 25 2019, exactly one year ago … It was at 95 percent. We are highly experienced at utilizing our ICU beds for the sickest of the sick patients day in day out … and it is completely normal for us to have ICU capacities that run in the 80s and 90s. That’s how all of us operate hospitals, and how all hospitals operate.”

    “The capacity that’s being reported is base capacity … we have the ability to go far higher than that in terms of the ICU beds that we can utilize for COVID.”

    “We have, across Houston Methodist, 24 hundred beds 330 or so of those are our ICU beds on a normal day, but there is an ability to flex beds back and forth. We can turn regular beds into ICU as we need to with appropriate staff, ventilators, and other equipment. We can turn many other areas in the hospital like some of the recovery areas, pre and post surgical areas, and places like that into ICUs.”

    “We are seeing younger patients, we are seeing a shorter length of stay, we are seeing lower immortality, and we are seeing lower ICU utilization right now.”

    “People need to come to the hospital when they have clinical issues … People need to come to the hospital or emergency department to receive care and not allow bad things to happen to them because they are somehow inaccurately afraid of coming to the hospitals. That’s a very key message.”

    “The time is now, as Houstonians, to band together and act like the can-do Houstonians that we are, and do all of the right things, and that means every single person in the community needs to be wearing a mask when they’re outside of the home, they need to avoid leaving the home or avoid going to social places or places where they congregate together whenever possible, they need to keep socially distanced, they need to do obsessive levels of hand hygiene. We’ve done that for months in our hospitals and we keep our employees and patients safe. We can do that across other businesses, across our lives, and get this virus level back down.”

    ---------

    Dr. Doug Lawson with St. Luke’s Health

    “Running a major hospital health system is truly as much of an art as it is a science. We work hard to staff to the volumes that we’re seeing on a day to day basis, and if we’re doing our jobs well we’re really matching our staffing to the patients who need us on a day to day basis.”

    “The reality is our capacity to care for those patients significantly exceeds what we’re staffing on any given day … we’re also actively planning for anticipated increases over the coming weeks and months.”

    As you look at the capacity of the hospitals on a day-to-day basis, it can be a little misleading. The reality is all of us have the ability to significantly expand capacity on a day-to-day, week-to-week, month-to-month basis.”

    “Our hospitals are incredibly safe. We have learned how to make better use of our PPE, we have stock piled appropriate numbers of PPE so that that is no longer the issue that it was early on in the disease process, our clinicians are much more comfortable caring for the patients than they ever were, and the hospitals are really doing quite well in caring for these patients.”

    “The businesses across Houston, we’re asking you directly to reinforce [safety guidelines] within your business areas, monitor your capacity, make sure that [there is] adequate room for people to move about safely within your organizations.”

    “We’re all concerned about the spread of this virus… the reality is we have to do a better job [with] hand hygiene, and socially distancing ourselves. The spread is increasing and incredibly concerning, however our hospitals are okay and ready to manage this surge appropriately and effectively.”

    ---------

    Mark A. Wallace with Texas Children’s Hospital

    Texas Children’s Hospital is the largest children’s hospital in the country. “This morning’s census is down because we really just started building back up our elective procedures and admissions …[it’s] really high for a children’s hospital, but it’s low for Texas Children’s Hospital ... our census this morning is 581 patients. That’s a 68 percent occupancy. Typically Children’s Texas Hospital this time of year without the pandemic, our census would be running much much closer to 700, 725, maybe even 750, so much closer to 90 or 95 percent.”

    “One day last November, our census hit 823 in one single day and our employees and our medical staff managed that and it really wasn’t a problem or an issue … so we know that we can flex up to 823 should that be necessary.”

    “Of our 859 operational beds, 355 of them are ICU and NICU beds … [today] we have 43 empty vacant ICU beds. That’s a 74 percent occupancy.”

    “We are taking care of COVID pediatric patients and we have been since the very inception and as was announced earlier this week we have already started accepting referrals from some of the adult hospitals in Houston … and that speaks to the fact that we do have capacity … we have plenty of capacity to take care of the children that need to get to the door step of Children’s Texas Hospital.”

    “We need people to stay at home when they can work at home … it’s imperative that we keep our workforce healthy as we go through this pandemic … We’re asking the public to please help us, help our employees, help our nurses … we need to be serving them, making sure that the community is doing their part to keep them healthy.”

    “All of us on this call today, we approach this from a very mission-oriented basis. We’re going to be here to fulfill our missions, take care of the patients and families that need to be taken care of, and we’re going to take good care of our employees and our medical staff. That’s our promise, that’s our pledge, and that’s what it has been for the Texas Medical Center for nearly 75 years.”

    ---------

    Dr. David L. Callender with Memorial Hermann Health System closed out the meeting with this – “Our goal has been for the hospital operators, the people who actually manage bed capacity, to be clear that we’re not in imminent danger of running out of bed capacity here in Houston to care of COVID patients, or those who have other illnesses that require hospital care. We work every day to manage very complex patients across all of our facilities and are used to making adjustments on the fly, and that’s what we’re currently doing. We think it’s very important for the community to engage, to lock arms, to work a little harder at following these guidelines, using these measures that we’ve now proven in our hospitals will limit the transmission of COVID 19. Please help us help Houston.”

    https://www.woodlandsonline.com/npps...m?nppage=67046
    These are private hospitals.
    You think you are going to get the real juice out of them?
    they were already understaffed to begin with, they try to MAKE money.
    What some of these guys are saying is we can mix Covid patients with other patients, or completely remove other patients to different floors which is a gigantic mess that causes them to lose a ton of money.

    You expect them to say we were not ready to begin with?
    Because they were not. They are not in good shape because our health care system does not work and their hospitals were already cost cutting from way back.

    The Methodist ... You want to find out the real story, you go work there and see.

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    "$ Please let us do elective surgeries again, governor. We promise to give you whatever numbers you want to hear $"
    Good point. They have a lot of profit motive in making the case that everything is fine, which should leave anybody rational to be a bit skeptical.

    We will see, and I would prefer to hear from the front line, because I know how out of touch a CEO can be at times to ground reality. (Trump *cough* *cough)

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    I'm hearing that a very large percentage of new cases are presenting with very mild symptoms or asymptomatic. People are being tested now who wouldn't meet criteria in May. Its a good thing for these people to find out their positive status so they can quarantine and avoid vulnerable family members.
    there are clearly a lot of younger people who just want to have some sort of normalcy in their lives.
    Party!
    They should not have gone in the first place. Now they cant/should not see their relatives.
    And this is what makes this so difficult. Different people have very different strategies in dealing with this. Holing up and becoming a hermit, I will party everywhere with everyone its a big hoax, the extremes. We have age divisions, political divisions, ethnic divisions...

    We have learned so much about people in general through this thing.
    Personally I have much less faith that people actually care about others.

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    there are clearly a lot of younger people who just want to have some sort of normalcy in their lives.
    Party!
    They should not have gone in the first place. Now they cant/should not see their relatives.
    And this is what makes this so difficult. Different people have very different strategies in dealing with this. Holing up and becoming a hermit, I will party everywhere with everyone its a big hoax, the extremes. We have age divisions, political divisions, ethnic divisions...

    We have learned so much about people in general through this thing.
    Personally I have much less faith that people actually care about others.

    I'm just treating everyone as if they're covid-positive, even my kids.

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    Good point. They have a lot of profit motive in making the case that everything is fine, which should leave anybody rational to be a bit skeptical.

    We will see, and I would prefer to hear from the front line, because I know how out of touch a CEO can be at times to ground reality. (Trump *cough* *cough)
    Absolutely.
    The people who work at these places are very familiar with the cost cutting measures so these hospitals can stay afloat.
    Our health care system is very very tough on hospitals.

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    I'm just treating everyone as if they're covid-positive, even my kids.
    Pretty much the same here except my wife of course.
    We go down together (on reflection thatdoes not sound very appropriate)
    But I will get outside as much as possible and do all the exercising and fishing that is the biggest part of my life.
    Luckily the activities dont involve getting around many people inside.
    I am going crazy not being able to swim laps though, I really miss that. Swimming was really taking a load off my legs.

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    I'm just treating everyone as if they're covid-positive, even my kids.
    Do your drinking buddies drink through a mask at the bar?

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    1 in 5 people in SA hospitals are in the ICU. Many people getting sick in the SA area are going to the hospital to get tested meaning they aren't feeling mild symptoms. A large portion of these new cases in the area are more than mildly symptomatic.

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    Pretty much the same here except my wife of course.
    We go down together (on reflection thatdoes not sound very appropriate)
    But I will get outside as much as possible and do all the exercising and fishing that is the biggest part of my life.
    Luckily the activities dont involve getting around many people inside.
    I am going crazy not being able to swim laps though, I really miss that. Swimming was really taking a load off my legs.


    I try to spend a lot of time outside. Luckily, I have a pool. Good enough for short laps.

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    1 in 5 people in SA hospitals are in the ICU. Many people getting sick in the SA area are going to the hospital to get tested meaning they aren't feeling mild symptoms. A large portion of these new cases in the area are more than mildly symptomatic.
    I would imagine if you're going to the hospital to get tested, you tend to be more sick. That doesn't mean there aren't a large number of mild cases.

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    I would imagine if you're going to the hospital to get tested, you tend to be more sick. That doesn't mean there aren't a large number of mild cases.
    No, but it's a large percentage. Also the one in five who are admitted and go into intensive care isn't something to ignore.

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    I try to spend a lot of time outside. Luckily, I have a pool. Good enough for short laps.
    Invite me over.
    Ill rip all the water out of that pool.

    I did get to swim and snorkel in the Llano river on a stretch no one wants to paddle up.
    But you see all the beauty and you just cant do laps in a river that flows, feels wrong.
    I need to see lines and lane markers.

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    Possible reasons why the death rate has been falling lately have already been discussed but thanks for that tweet from "trinhomics".

    Be sure to come back if/when the death rate goes back up
    Was going to say... these kind of posts have not aged well in this pandemic so far... hope that changes.

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    Houston: 2000 less confirmed cases than the day before (still over 40,000 though) and test positivity rate down 7% from 3 days ago (still at 15%)

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    "(CNN)Betty and Curtis Tarpley were together for most of their lives -- they went to the same high school in Illinois, met and fell in love in California as adults, got married, and raised two kids.

    On June 18, after 53 years as a married couple, the two died from coronavirus within an hour of each other in a Texas hospital, spending their last moments together holding hands, their son told CNN.
    Tim Tarpley said his mom, who was 80, had been sick for a few days when he took her to Texas Health Harris Methodist Hospital Fort Worth and found out she had Covid-19.

    She was admitted on June 9 and his 79-year-old dad was admitted on the 11th......"

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/30/us/co...rnd/index.html



    I hope the Lt governor thanks the family for their sacrifice

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