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    Forbes has gone from shooting a paltry 7.6 three-pointers per 100 possessions to a very strong 10.9 threes per 100 possessions. It doesn't sound like a notable difference but that's the difference between meh and elite at the NBA level.
    Forbes is also hitting 48% of his threes so far (small sample admittedly).

    Thanks for the great analysis!

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    Can you guess which duo is the worst defensive duo at this point in the season? Yep, Mills and Forbes. They're giving up 140.0 (!) points per 100 possessions. One hundred and forty

    This is one area where Pop definitely is to blame. The eye test told us last year Mills and Forbes can't play together defensively. Advanced stats showed that duo got destroyed on defense last year. Not playing Mills and Forbes together should have one of the few items written in ink in the gameplan coming into this season.

    But, here we are, three games in and Mills and Forbes has been the backcourt pairing more than 20 percent of the time -- and almost exclusively down the stretch in the two close games.

    Smh.
    Maybe Pop has gone full "well if the league won't allow defense I might as well go all out the other direction".

    One should hope that this duo will play a lot less together when White and Walker are healthy. But unfortunately I can't say I have much hope for that.

    Mills is certainly looking like the most expendable player on the team. Forbes does everything Mills does at a much lower price, and Mills's contract can bring back a decent player. Too bad the contract is so long that the Spurs would have to attach an asset, like their own 2019 1st for example.

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    Really? I came for the posting and trolling. Jk...kinda.
    There are trolls on this site? Who knew?

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    Great write-up LJ

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    Thanks, timvp! I agree with BillMc. Posts like yours were the entire reason I started lurking all those years ago to get very good takes and lots of early news.

    However, I think that White has shown the potential to space the floor as well as Forbes and possibly provide better defense. But Forbes has been a pleasant surprise so far, showing some solid improvement over last season. I hope he continues on this trajectory. He would be a good rotation player by late season.

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    Stop reading at small sample size. got.

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    Slowing the game down is a last-ditch effort to combat against the offense-only style of the NBA this season. It probably won't work. The Spurs need fluid athletes first and foremost, guys like Lonnie Walker. We may need a full rebuild.

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    Sample size proving the historically bad defense is no fluke.

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    Thanks for this write-up, interesting info. I read this after tonight's horrible game (if you're not from Lincoln's home state). I came away from that thinking Patty and Pau have got to be the worst defenders on our team and sure enough you proved me right. They lived up to it tonight.

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    Speaking of small sample sizes... this site has the Spurs only winning 34 games.


    https://www.cleaningtheglass.com/stats/league/fourfactors


    UPDATE:


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    UPDATE:

    4th worst point differential in the league so far:
    https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/sta...scoring-margin


    Spur very likely to get 1st top ten lottery pick in 22 years

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    UPDATE:

    The NBA has outlawed defense, so this is a non-issue.

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    The NBA has outlawed defense, so this is a non-issue.
    blue font?

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    Partially ... let me fix:

    The NBA has outlawed defense, so this is a non-issue.

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    UPDATE:

    this is a long season. right now pelicans and nuggets look like they would represent the West. Highly unlikely.

    Last year we began the year 4-0 and it looked like we would have no issues without Kawhi. WRONG! We lost the next 4 lol

    Not saying that we are going to turn things around or anything like that but there's plenty of season to be played. DDR and LMA are a dynamic duo that will be sure to figure things out when shots aint going in. At least offensively.

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    https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018...ense-nba-worst

    The article has some clips referencing some bad defensive possessions.

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    Patty has been this damn bad on defense his whole career. Him being part of this team has hurt more than helped in the win column for the past 5 years.

    Anyone claiming he was a big part of those 60 win seasons is a moron.

    Hope they now realize what a terrible job they did in the pivotal summer of 17.

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    We are all better off if this team keeps losing their ass this season tbh. Im celebrating every loss.

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    We are all better off if this team keeps losing their ass this season tbh. Im celebrating every loss.
    Do you think Pop will coach them up to improve? Law of averages something, more minutes for Cunningham? Less Paddy? I figure they will improve some...

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    "Gasol has the lateral quickness of a newborn deer."

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    Not new. I remember before they got Green/Kawhi they used to struggle defensively against good wings. Keith Bogans was supposed to be the centerpiece. It used to be a wing player would have career night when going against the Spurs. That's why you need a good defensive anchor.

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    “we” how about you actually giving a on defense for once

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