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  1. #351
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    And the list of American WASP culture is spot on. What's your issue here, Chris?
    So you can reply with some kind of hyperbole or ad hominem?

    I usually ignore troll accounts.

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    So you can reply with some kind of hyperbole or ad hominem?

    I usually ignore troll accounts.
    when have I trolled you?

    Simple question. What's your issue? My issue would be calling the list "white culture," as if white culture is geneous. It does list the traits of Anglo American culture to a T.

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    when have I trolled you?

    Simple question. What's your issue? My issue would be calling the list "white culture," as if white culture is geneous. It does list the traits of Anglo American culture to a T.
    lol @ thinking he gave this any thought... he's offended because his twitter feed told him to be, tbh

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    I'm not a far left liberal.

    So....

    Point out the core issues you have with the list? Does it criticize "white American" culture as a whole? Or does it simply define traits of "white American culture?"

    And all these traits are generally true. Not sure about white Americans only liking "meat and potatoes" though.

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    Irny

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    lol @ thinking he gave this any thought... he's offended because his twitter feed told him to be, tbh
    MAGAs and Republicans are very easily offended, moreso than SJWs imo.

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    And Chris doesn't want discussion, so why the is he posting this anyway?

    Simply put, there's many positive traits listed that we can be thankful have penetrated our culture as a whole, while there's other traits that have contributed to negative elements of American culture, like "wealth=worth" for example.

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    And Chris doesn't want discussion, so why the is he posting this anyway?

    Simply put, there's many positive traits listed that we can be thankful have penetrated our culture as a whole, while there's other traits that have contributed to negative elements of American culture, like "wealth=worth" for example.
    He's just Twitter baiting to get a reaction out of you guys.

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    He's just Twitter baiting to get a reaction out of you guys.
    no I'm just posting the truth because no one else will.

    It's called integrity.

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    no I'm just posting the truth because no one else will.

    It's called integrity.
    Oh not for you its not called that.
    You have never met the I word.

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    Oh not for you its not called that.
    You have never met the I word.
    ^This is called projection.

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    I'm not a far left liberal.

    So....

    Point out the core issues you have with the list? Does it criticize "white American" culture as a whole? Or does it simply define traits of "white American culture?"

    And all these traits are generally true. Not sure about white Americans only liking "meat and potatoes" though.
    Do you think "hard work" is a sign of "whiteness"?


    Also I agree with this guy:





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    another good one from the replies:




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    another good one from the replies:



    lol white people

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    ^racist

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    ^projection

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    Do you think "hard work" is a sign of "whiteness"?


    Also I agree with this guy:




    Of course hard work isnt a sign of American whiteness. But just because this particular graph isnt inclusive of all other ethnicities doesn't mean it is excluding other ethnicities from possessing that trait.

    Itd be like a "blackness" list saying music is a core aspect of their culture. This is true, but we know music is a core aspect of every culture.

    In any event, this a fair criticism of the list. It lacks context. But I don't see as some divisive social justice tactic, especially since it was sourced from a book written in 1990.

    This list isnt condemning nor endorsing anything, it's just listing perceived traits. And yeah, I would say the obsession with "hard work" to the detriment of other life activities is unique to Anglo American culture outside of maybe the Asian countries. DAF86 told of a friend who came to live here and felt like a wage slave. Many other countries around the world have more vacation time, work fewer hours per week, etc. I think the more useful description would be "obsession with hard work."

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    ^or better yet "workaholicism"

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    Of course hard work isnt a sign of American whiteness. But just because this particular graph isnt inclusive of all other ethnicities doesn't mean it is excluding other ethnicities from possessing that trait.

    Itd be like a "blackness" list saying music is a core aspect of their culture. This is true, but we know music is a core aspect of every culture.

    In any event, this a fair criticism of the list. It lacks context. But I don't see as some divisive social justice tactic, especially since it was sourced from a book written in 1990.

    This list isnt condemning nor endorsing anything, it's just listing perceived traits. And yeah, I would say the obsession with "hard work" to the detriment of other life activities is unique to Anglo American culture outside of maybe the Asian countries. DAF86 told of a friend who came to live here and felt like a wage slave. Many other countries around the world have more vacation time, work fewer hours per week, etc. I think the more useful description would be "obsession with hard work."
    It's disgustingly racist to assume anything about anyone based on the color of their skin.

    Does that sink in with you chief?

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    Take your "whiteness" and your "graph" and shove it up your ass tbh

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    It's disgustingly racist to assume anything about anyone based on the color of their skin.

    Does that sink in with you chief?
    More like ignorant. You cheapen the definition of racism by calling this racism. Racism is an ins utional phenomenon. And I've already agreed labeling these traits "whiteness" is re ed. There's no such thing as "white culture." What the list describes is American Anglo Saxon Protestant culture, real or perceived (they did label it the list that these can be assumptions).

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    Take your "whiteness" and your "graph" and shove it up your ass tbh
    And I've already agreed labeling these traits "whiteness" is re ed. There's no such thing as "white culture."

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    And the list of American WASP culture is spot on. What's your issue here, Chris?
    Now you know my issue which should have been apparent at first glance to anyone with a lick of common sense.

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    Now you know my issue which should have been apparent at first glance to anyone with a lick of common sense.
    I honestly think your issue really is that this list is featured in what is probably a left leaning museum and that's why it offends you.

    There's nothing offensive about labeling certain traits "whiteness." It's wrong because it's inaccurate (again, this seems to define more American Anglo Saxon temperament than anything, which is very different than say Irish-American temperament) not "offensive."

    What would be "offensive" is listing a lurid stereotype, i.e. that incest is a trait of Southern American whiteness.

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