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Nearly 7-foot-9 player from China training for NBA in Greensboro
4-13-05
By Kellie Dixon, Staff Writer
News & Record
GREENSBORO — The hoop hangs within arm's reach of Sun Ming Ming.
Sun Ming Ming, whose head measures above most door frames, follows Keith Gatlin into Fitness by Design for a late morning workout. (Joseph Rodriguez/©News & Record)
The 7-foot-8 3/4 center positions himself under the basket and awaits a pass from trainer Keith Gatlin.
Ball in hand, Sun muscles his 350-pound frame into training partner Dshamal Schoetz, a 7-footer who played at Greensboro College who is nearly nine inches shorter. Sun pivots and places the ball firmly into the hoop. Swish.
Sun, who is from Harbin, China, is training in Greensboro for a shot at the NBA. His agent, Charles Bonsignore, paired the prospect up with former client and former professional basketball player Keith Gatlin. Gatlin, a managing partner with 334 Sports, a local firm that trains athletes, has worked with Sun for about five weeks.
"With his size, that intrigues everybody," Gatlin said. "He can really shoot the ball to be that size. The challenge for him now is to get mobile, to get up and down the court."
Sun also can handle the ball and has a sweet outside shot that swishes with the quick flick of his wrist. When it comes to dunking, he doesn't need to leave the ground.
Basketball, Gatlin will tell you, is not Sun's problem.
Sun's weakness is his flexibility and his lack of weight training. While playing for the Junior Olympic team and then Da Qing, his province's club squad, Sun never lifted weights and is just now building upper-body strength.
Trainer James Wilson, who coaches track and field at High Point University, has worked with Sun on his mobility for about five weeks.
During the first workout, the color drained from Sun's face, and he tired easily. Now Sun completes the workouts. His flexibility has improved to where he can lift his knees higher, and he gets up and down the court smoother.
Wilson said Sun is young in terms of his training years.
"I treat him like he is a high school senior lifting weights," Wilson said. "You build from that. ... There's a progression that you need to go. You can't just go everyday hard, hard, hard. It just doesn't work like that."
Sometimes the language barrier can be a problem, Wilson said, because Sun is mentally tough and wants to complete the workouts. An "OK" from Sun isn't always good enough for Wilson, who looks for other signs. Is he wincing? Is there color in his face?
"You push a person, but you don't want to push a person where they get injured, and that happens with a lot athletes with a lot of willpower," Wilson said. "It's better to undertrain than overtrain."
The risk of injury is too great, especially with NBA teams already asking about Sun. The possibility of making the NBA thrills Sun, who is happily working toward his future.
Sun's grasp on a basketball resembles most people holding a softball. (Joseph Rodriguez/©News & Record)
"I have more opportunities here," Sun said through interpreter Hsiao-Yin Chu. "I have the opportunity to play with the best players in the world and get into good basketball."
Bonsignore saw the raw potential while watching Sun play for the Junior Olympic team in China and again when he played for Da Qing.
"More than anything I saw his size," Bonsignore said. "I just thought it was a complete waste of a kid's life: That he's so big, and they don't have the resources to train him."
That's why Bonsignore asked Gatlin to train Sun. Gatlin spent eight years playing professional ball in Europe, so he understands what it's like to adjust to a new culture.
"Keith believes in basically the old style of basketball fundamentals," Bonsignore said. "With his personality and demeanor, I knew he'd make Sun comfortable."
Since arriving in North Carolina in early March, Sun has become more comfortable with his surroundings, particularly around his support team and host family Rocky and Celeste Manning, friends of Gatlin's.
During the week, Sun climbs into the back seat of Gatlin's SUV and rides to the Greensboro Sportsplex or Fitness by Design. His days are devoted to basketball, but he spends the evenings lounging around the Manning's house in Summerfield. He is another member of the Manning family whether he's cooking on the grill, driving the golf cart or writing in his journal.
The Mannings don't speak Chinese, but sign language does the trick.
"He's been great," Rocky Manning said. "He totally changed from when he first came here. He didn't seem that happy, but now he smiles and laughs and knows a couple hundred words in English. He's a very smart guy."
Sun will stay in Greensboro until May when he'll return to China for 45 days to play in the national games with his club team. He is expected to return in June for the NBA Draft, but Bonsignore isn't interested in hyping Sun's situation because it could create unfair comparisons to recent China product Yao Ming.
If Sun is drafted in June, Bonsignore hopes he'll be picked by a team willing to develop Sun's skills.
If he's not drafted, he will become a free agent, and Bonsignore said they will consider taking next year to continue building his skills.
"If a team doesn't show that they are willing to be patient," Bonsignore said, "we'll just wait and show him when he's ready."
Contact Kellie Dixon at 883-4422, Ext. 229, or [email protected]
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Pictures of him holding ball are amazing.
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Pictures did not copy with article how do I show paste pictures.
just post the link to the article
He may be a project for someone, but selecting players from China is dicey. Their national team rules their lives, and will always come first.
Here's link so you can see the pics. There freaky.
http://www.news-record.com/sports/lo...ing_041305.htm
The guy going through the door in front of him looks like a guard, but is the 7 footer mentioned in the article.
I don't know, after seeing Yao Ming, I'm thinking maybe being 7 ft 9 isn't all that's made out to be. I mean Yao was supposed to be a supreme rebounding menace, and so far he's been a disapointment.
I don't think Gatlin is the 7-footer that was someone else. But I do remember the name Keith Gatlin because I remember his nickname being Gatlin Gun. Cool name.
Actually, kind of a lame article. How old is this guy? Any kind of statiscal information of any kind? (besides weight and height)?
lol
Someone will draft him late in the second round.
Yao only averages 18 and 9 and is a HUGE dissapointment....think before u talk.
He's not on the nbadraft dot net radar yet.
strange not many people have heard of him....i never had....he will be a bust though...he will get sooo tired
He was in SI last year. Touted as the chinese shaq. I'm sure he'll go very quickly.
Dwayne Shintzus forum.
i am convinced that the chinese government is geneticly manipulating these guys, i've heard they have hundreds and hundreds of these 7ft+ guys over there, and in like 10 years, most NBA teams will have a chinese center, they have a country where most people are 5 1/2 feet or less and then suddenly endless yao mings, bull
WTF!!!
Asians are gettin taller n taller these days...
The tallest basketball player is Chinese, and the best golfer is black...ain't that a
Did his trainer say that he was not strong enough ?
From these pics he seems already stronger than Yao !
I don't think he'll go that soon in the draft, maybe a late second rounder...
But without his stats and bio it's hard to evaluate its potential.
You took the words right out of my mouth man. I was seriously just about to make the same exat post. Asian people are getting taller. It's recently too. When i was a sophmore at UT there was a huge difference in average height of asians then now, 3 years later. Most of them are taller than me.
Pretty soon 8 footers will be the staple center size.
Regardless...i'd LOVE to see this guy try to hang with shaq. Like, ASAP. Shaq would still own his butt...book it.
China has 300+ people that are 7+ footers. Of those, probably ~10% have the potential to develop and become good basketball players. It is bound to happen with a population of 1.2 Billion people. The Chinese average height is still much lower than the American. The Asian-American that are born here are taller in average than other native asians, mainly due to a different diet.
Population sample. The bigger the population, the more huge mother ers there will be. Simple statistics. The concept of small Chinese is not valid. They had some warrior muther ers in the interior, but most Europeans met and interacted with people in the port cities. I'd hate to have foreigners judge all Americans by a sample of rude ing Bostonians or New Yawkers.i am convinced that the chinese government is geneticly manipulating these guys, i've heard they have hundreds and hundreds of these 7ft+ guys over there, and in like 10 years, most NBA teams will have a chinese center, they have a country where most people are 5 1/2 feet or less and then suddenly endless yao mings, bull
I think I get your point, but what are you trying to say about New Yorkers, ?!?
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