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    Kansas initially shut down churches but the Court overturned the executive order citing it as discriminatory.
    Pretty much the same reason bar owners are suing Texas over the order to shut bars down.

    In other words, they can be shut down due to emergency situations like this but the government has to make sure all businesses/organizations of similar nature are also shut down.
    But the cons utional religious aspect differentiates them from bars. That's why they are afraid to do it.

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    But the cons utional religious aspect differentiates them from bars. That's why they are afraid to do it.
    as long as you aren't specifically discriminating against religion, i dont think it would be an issue. so if you are banning all indoor public gatherings with more than x people, then you cant really argue that the law is discriminating against religion. there's a landmark case from oregon that goes into that. peyote was an illegal drug but people of some specific religion said peyote use was a ritual, and so the law was anti-religion. SCOTUS said that isnt the case

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employ...ious%20ritual.


    now perhaps if you could prove that the specific way that they banned public gatherings was meant to target religion... ie we are banning all public gatherings held in buildings with ceilings this high and with painted glass windows (or something less ridiculous than that), then you'd have a better case

    texas didnt hesitate on cons utional grounds, but on pandering rounds. imo.

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    as long as you aren't specifically discriminating against religion, i dont think it would be an issue. so if you are banning all public gatherings with more than x people, then you cant really argue that the law is discriminating against religion. there's a landmark case rom oregon that goes into that. peyote was an illegal drug but people of some specific religion said peyote use was a ritual, and so the law was anti-religion. SCOTUS said that isnt the case

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employ...ious%20ritual.


    now perhaps if you could prove that the specific way that they banned public gatherings was meant to target religion... ie we are banning all public gatherings held in buildings with ceilings this high and with painted glass windows (or something less ridiculous than that), then you'd have a better case
    Well, let's do it. I'm all for shutting all of them down till this is over. Trying to do business right now is scary as .

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    Well, let's do it. I'm all for shutting all of them down till this is over. Trying to do business right now is scary as .
    is texas actually closing business right now though? or is it just a mask requirement?

    and even then, just have congregations gather outdoors, standing 6 feet apart, wearing masks, if you REALLY wanted an in-person gathering because you are technologically inept

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    is texas actually closing business right now though? or is it just a mask requirement?

    and even then, just have congregations gather outdoors, standing 6 feet apart, wearing masks, if you REALLY wanted an in-person gathering because you are technologically inept
    Speaking for myself we are an essential business that works all over the city and south texas trying to navigate through this . We dont need dummies denying science getting us infected without even knowing where it came from.

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    Speaking for myself we are an essential business that works all over the city and south texas trying to navigate through this . We dont need dummies denying science getting us infected without even knowing where it came from.
    You should be telling this to the Lt Governor and Governor.

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    Well, let's do it. I'm all for shutting all of them down till this is over. Trying to do business right now is scary as .
    It's not going to be "over"

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    is texas actually closing business right now though? or is it just a mask requirement?
    For all intents and purposes, bars are shut down. They can still sell to go for people who don't care about paying bar prices for booze.

    It's fairly arbitrary. If less than 51% of your sales (preCOVID) was booze, you can stay open. If not, no dice. Regardless of whether you've changed your business model during COVID.

    Lots of good places to eat are shut down because they did good bar sales from midnight to 2am. Mostly local, independently owned. Meanwhile, Applebee's is open.

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    You should be telling this to the Lt Governor and Governor.
    im sure he has them on speed dial

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    It's not going to be "over"
    What happened to yesterday's optimism that we're only 500k deaths from it being done? Man Snakes, every time I try to find some reason for optimism...

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    More people die per day of cardiovascular disease in the us than from covid. Shut down McDonald's.

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    ^Covid is on track to be one of the leading causes of death this year. Just give it up, man.

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    ^Covid is on track to be one of the leading causes of death this year. Just give it up, man.
    Lol will not top cardiovascular or cancer. Fact

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    Lol will not top cardiovascular or cancer. Fact
    What is your point? If it's number 3 will that make it any less serious? You keep moving the goal posts. First it was only 10k deaths, then it was no increase in positives, then it was hospitalizations flat...

    And now it's "oh it won't top 2 of the historical leading causes of death worldwide".

    Give it up, man.

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    What is your point? If it's number 3 will that make it any less serious? You keep moving the goal posts. First it was only 10k deaths, then it was no increase in positives, then it was hospitalizations flat...

    And now it's "oh it won't top 2 of the historical leading causes of death worldwide".

    Give it up, man.
    Lol 2x flu and going down. You arent good at math or logic. How's those hospitals you said were out of icu capacity weeks ago? Gossip you

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    Lol 2x flu and going down. You arent good at math or logic. How's those hospitals you said were out of icu capacity weeks ago? Gossip you
    I never said that they were out of capacity. I don't know why you think you can just say whatever you want when the posts are here to see. As for that capacity, they're reaching it. Methodist has a waiting list to get into the ER.

    Just give it up.

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    More people die per day of cardiovascular disease in the us than from covid. Shut down McDonald's.
    You can't sneeze cardiovascular disease on someone 5 feet away from you

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    You can't sneeze cardiovascular disease on someone 5 feet away from you
    He knows. He's a troll and obviously not a serious person.

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    I'm not so sure

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    I'm not so sure
    I mean, he posts "hospitalizations flat" when there are videos literally inside these hospitals. I honestly think he's trolling.

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    Lol will not top cardiovascular or cancer. Fact
    . You cant catch cancer because you walked through a cancer cloud left by the guy in the HEB aisle 2 minutes before you got there.

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    "The surge in coronavirus cases has gotten so bad in Houston that two of the city's hospitals have begun transporting patients to other cities in Texas.

    Harris Health Systems, which runs Ben Taub and LBJ hospitals, over the last 24 hours has transferred 33 patients, both COVID-19 and non COVID-19 patients, to facilities in Houston and in surrounding areas, and was in the process of transferring 15 more, according to spokesman Bryan McLeod.

    Some of those locations include Texas Children's Hospital, which recently admitted adult COVID-19 patients, and UTMB's Galveston hospital, which is more than 50 miles outside Houston......"

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/houston-ho...ry?id=71552472

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    Lol 2x flu and going down. You arent good at math or logic. How's those hospitals you said were out of icu capacity weeks ago? Gossip you

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    This sarcastic question aged nicely.


    "ATLANTA - Another record-setting day on Thursday as confirmed coronavirus rise by nearly 3,500 in Georgia, new data shows, as Georgia's governor warns people to wear a mask for the next few months if they want college football this fall......."

    https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/geo...-last-24-hours

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    This sarcastic question aged nicely.


    "ATLANTA - Another record-setting day on Thursday as confirmed coronavirus rise by nearly 3,500 in Georgia, new data shows, as Georgia's governor warns people to wear a mask for the next few months if they want college football this fall......."

    https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/geo...-last-24-hours
    Take your pick of Darrin's posts. They've all aged like milk.

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