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Mills can be a good back-up point guard if he has the right pieces around him.
Does anyone actually want it?
Neal, Mills and De Colo have all fallen flat when given the opportunity (sometimes multiple) to grab it. Is it time to give Joseph a shot?
Mills can be a good back-up point guard if he has the right pieces around him.
gary neal should only get playin time when its a bailout shot thats needed
every other time his on the court its either turnover, trading stupid baskets, or him giving up the lead...
This really needs to be addressed. We often go in the tank when Neal is running the team.
Either make Manu the permanent backup PG, or pick one of Mills/De Colo/Joseph and give him 10 games to prove himself.
Mills is not a point guard and Manu won't work as the backup PG against a team like OKC or the Clippers. CoJo and De Colo are the only options at this point. I'm thinking that unless Pop's willing to play Manu with the first unit more (Green/De Colo) that CoJo is the guy who should probably get the nod.
Looks like Manu will have to play point guard. That's fine I guess but we can't rely on him to defend a point guard. Neal or Mills have to play the 2 on offense and defend the opposing pg
Patty has been given opportunities but he the bed. Much more suited in a SG role.
Nando is too offensively limited. But otherwise, he would be a good option.
Neal just NO.
Joseph should be given a shot, tbh. He needs the experience instead of playing in Austin. His defense alone should help his cause.
^ word cojo should be the back up pg .......
all the backups pg on this team, dont do anything besides bringing the ball upcourt then passing it to manu who then starts to create plays...
lol paying these clowns just to bring the ball up but cant do any playmaking....fkn pathetic
bold prediction, although that is the reason CJ is in Austin is to develop, but maybe the plan all along was to play Neal up to the trade deadline to keep his trade value high and use him in a package and then bring in Cojo (who is playing heavy minutes in the Spurs system in Austin) to step in as true back up final half of the season.
De Colo should get the backup PG spot and Ginobili should start
I hope you're right, and it makes sense. I like CoJo, he's our homegrown guy, and I certainly don't feel good abut Neal as our PG. Other than shooting, there's not much else there. I like Nando but it seems he still needs some work.
I like your bold prediction. CIA Pop work.
The backup PG disaster is a mess right now. When is the last time a backup point guard put together two solid halves behind Parker?
I think De Colo needs to be given the reigns and time to figure it out. It's obvious he has vision and talent, maybe it's not helping his confidence getting yanked around with playing time. imo he has shown the most promise backing up Parker, even if his offense isn't great, he still can run sets and get the ball to where it needs to be. Can't say the same about Neal/Mills
^^ I think he'd have to be playing with Green to make that work though. With Manu he becomes more of a spot-up shooter which obviously Neal and Mills are better suited for. Thing is, defensively a Mills or Neal/De Colo backcourt just isn't going to get it done. Although as a fan I think the situation is dire enough that it's worth making the change, Pop may not want to make such a dramatic departure from his usual rotation.
That's because Manu handles the ball the most for the second unit when he can do a lot without the ball in his hands. De Colo should be the primary ball handler and Manu should be making cuts and going around screens. And I realize it's because Manu is a wizard with the ball but he also throws so many errant passes or he tries to get fancy when there is no need to, he's always throwing the ball away or not throwing crisp passes and they get deflected or picked off a lot.
De colo is a 2 not a PG
his ceiling would be grievis vasquez but he doesnt have the touch around the rim or the strength vasquez does
Neal is also a 2 but you wont find minutes for him behind green/ginobili
hes more injury insurance but hes also good enough not to be chained to the bench
Mills is a 2 in a PG body
good energy player who can get hot in a hurry and provide some hustle
Best thing to do would be to trade Neal/Blair/Bonner/pick for someone like Sebastian Telfair
Good ballhandler who can penetrate
passing isnt elite for a backup like TJ ford but he can get it done
Acceptable numbers from 3 point range
Phoenix would be the rare win/win for both teams
They drafted Kendall Marshall whos rotting away in the d-league and they could be trying to stockpile picks to make some big moves
I know they were going hard for SGs like Mayo/Gordon/Harden and neal isnt exactly them but hes a nice 6th man/backup for them
I'd like for them to give CoJo a try. If CoJo proved himself worthy of the backup spot, who do you guys think would be the first off of the team(out of the rest of the PGs)?
Disagree. His passing and playmaking make him a point guard. He's not a good enough scorer to be a shooting guard. His instincts are all 100% point guard.
lol wut
Vasquez is horrible around the rim. Looking it up, he's shoots 44% at the basket ... that's dramatically worse than even Danny Green
Agreed with both of that, unfortunately.
A trade is not out of the question but Telfair? No thanks. He can't shoot. Not a very good passer; racks up a shockingly few amount of assists for the number of plays he's involved in. Not a defender and has no intangibles to speak of. I'd rather go with CJ before trading for Telfair specifically, tbh.
It sure would be nice if we could draft ourselves a serviceable pure PG in the upcoming draft... Perhaps we could find a way to package Blair and Neal (or De Colo or some other SG on our roster) and move up to have a higher draft pick.
If we play our cards right maybe we could end up drafting Ian Miller out of Florida St. or maybe even Lorenzo Brown from NC St.
Our backups can't handle ball pressure.
Well who did you have in mind with a blair/bonner package
im sure the clippers are waiting for us to offer it for bledsoe
vasquez has played a lot better as the season has gone on
didnt he have like a 18/10 december or something
and im looking at his last 30 day shot chart and hes shooting 50%+ in all areas but one and hes also attempted the fewest shots from that area
he also had to create a lot out of nothing and hes improved a lot since eric gordon has showed up, not a coincidence
vasquez floater isnt bad either tbh per par
De colo is 0 threat to score most nights
almost as bad as diaw on the scouting report
Teams will just sag off him and play the pass
its why we lost the miami game
His decent scoring games have all come during garbage time and not when he was thrown in during actual play time
And everything you say about Parker you could say about Telfair tbh
hes improved as times gone on and telfair is also
given what the spurs have to give up and what they can expect telfair is about the best they can hope for
Telfair Career per 36 2.6 TO and 5.8 Assists
Parker Career per 36 2.8 TO and 6.5 Assists
He has actual NBA experience over Joseph
Joseph sounds nice but he also hasnt really played any nba games and its already mid season
Telfair really only has to give you 12-15 minutes of not turning the ball over and getting the spurs into their sets
and hes shooting above average from 3 this season on high volume
I would also like the spurs to give Joseph a try since you wont find a PG with his skillset available at the trade deadline (defense/get teams into sets) but if the spurs had to make a trade the best they could hope for is a Sebastian Telfair
and a pipedream would be someone like Eric Maynor
find a way to getDelonte West tbh
This problem can be solved with an application of logic.
Since Ginobili is going to be playing in the 2nd unit the main priority is getting a guy who can bring the ball up under pressure. That excludes the two sharpshooters Neal & Mills, unfortunately. That leaves either DeColo or Cojo... and I believe DeColo is the better of the two. Plus DeColo has a bit more experience under his belt, not only this season, but in prior seasons.
That said, Pop needs to make a decision already on who to play and stick with it the rest of the year. This strategy (and I use that term loosely) he deploys year after year of continuing to play a logjam of assholes indefenitely because he just can't make up his friggin mind eventually becomes toxic to team chemistry and morale. Which I believe is what were starting to see happen again right now (last season it was the big rotation he ed around with forever).
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