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    How many unwanted black kids have you adopted, Qhris?

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    I don't have to be certain to understand the risk/reward.

    Where is the line? Why cede any ground in the optics battle for something you admit probably doesn't gain any legislative or judicial ground? It's selfish. It's release over results.
    Optics and the modal/median voter are more or less artificial constructs. Seems you presume to know that voter's disposition in advance, as well as what messages will win or lose his vote, what the optics will be for this more or less triangulated, statistical en y, You also presume that political success and failure depends on catering to him/her.

    That's quite a few assumptions about political causality and the future. But if that were really the case, how did DJT win in 2016? Certainly not by worrying about optics or pandering to the median.
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    dp

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    Chuck Schumer doesn't seem particularly concerned about the optics.

    (Probably because he wants Dems to lose and is willing to sacrifice women's rights for a fruitless but personally satisfying display of pique.)


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    How many unwanted black kids have you adopted, Qhris?
    I asked you before Chump sucker and you never answer,,,how many illegals have you taken in since you vote democrat and your party supports open borders?

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    I asked you before Chump sucker and you never answer,,,how many illegals have you taken in since you vote democrat and your party supports open borders?
    We don't support open borders.

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    We don't support open borders.

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    Obama and Biden are tougher than Trump on border enforcement. It's not even a contest.

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    young voters can make a difference, if they can be convinced Dems will fight for them, but they don't fit into median voter theory, so never mind



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    access to care for miscarriages has already taken a hit in Texas. women will die because of this.

    Dr. Lauren Thaxton, an OB-GYN and assistant professor at the Dell Medical School at the University of Texas-Austin, has already heard about local patients who have been miscarrying, and couldn't get a pharmacy to fill their misoprostol prescription.


    "The pharmacy has said, 'We don't know whether or not you might be using this medication for the purposes of abortion,'" she said.


    Thaxton, who supervises the obstetrics-gynecology residents who have seen these patients, said sometimes the prescribing clinic will intervene, but it takes the patient longer to get the medication. Other times patients don't report the problem and miscarry on their own, she said, but without medication they risk additional bleeding.
    https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...r-miscarriages

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    we need to worry more -- a lot more! -- about the optics of petulant sidewalk chalk tantrums


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    You're not a woman and there's no way you've had relations with a woman, and I'd feel safe betting that remains the story till you croak, so why are you worried about this?
    Why should white people have cared about slavery?

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    GOP leader: Republicans will 'move day one' to enact federal abortion law after Supreme Court ruling

    Scalise (LA) confirmed on Wednesday that Republicans will "move day one" to enact a federal abortion law if the U.S. Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade.

    https://www.rawstory.com/steve-scalise-abortion

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    if not enumerated in the Cons ution, aka, originalism of the 18th century,

    SCOTUS and Repugs will trash lots of stuff

    mandated public education

    income tax

    same sex sex and same sex-marriage

    etc.

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    Alito reached back nearly 1,000 years to weaponize ancient misogyny --

    and it's nothing short of grotesque

    Alito's use of ancient misogyny to undergird his arguments isn't disgraceful. In fact, it's nothing short of grotesque.

    He goes all the way back to the 13th century

    to cite Judge Henry de Bracton's "De Legibus et Consuetudinibus Angliae,"

    a text about
    English law and custom that explained that

    if a person has "struck a pregnant woman, or has given her poison, whereby he has caused an abortion, if the foetus be already formed and animated … he commits homicide"

    to argue that abortion has been considered murder for centuries.

    https://www.rawstory.com/alito-reached-back-nearly-1000-years-to-weaponize-ancient-misogyny-and-it-is-nothing-short-of-grotesque

    abortion was not wrong in the Catholic Church

    "In the early Roman Catholic church,

    abortion was permitted for male fetuses in the first 40 days of pregnancy and

    for female fetuses in the first 80-90 days.

    Not until 1588 did Pope Sixtus V declare all abortion murder, with excommunication as the punishment."

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1234...e%20punishment.

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    President Manchinema has spoken


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    dystopia is already here




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    it never was about states rights

    After Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) suggested that a federal abortion ban was possible, a reporter asked Scalise if he supported stripping women's rights nationwide.


    "I hope that the ruling comes out soon and I hope it's the ruling that was leaked," Scalise replied. "But if you think about where we are, we're a party who defends life and we would celebrate a ruling that allows elected leaders to defend life and debate in open public what those laws should be in every state and in Washington."


    "Clearly, we will move day one if we get the majority.."
    https://www.rawstory.com/steve-scalise-abortion/

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    We don't support open borders.

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    Explain all the current detentions and deportations.

    I'll wait.

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    President Manchinema has spoken

    was all bull , since Dems have only 48 max. lots of Dem senators are against annulling Trash's 2017 tax cut scam for the oligarchy

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    Explain all the current detentions and deportations.

    I'll wait.
    Record setting detentions and deportations. Puts Trump in the shade.

    Obama did too.

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    Record setting detentions and deportations. Puts Trump in the shade.

    Obama did too.
    Trump s always resort to lies.

    Always.

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    Trump s always resort to lies.

    Always.
    In another thread, CC said 2 million people a month were crossing the border illegally. That's 24 million per year.

    Perhaps it was an honest misstatement, but he never acknowledged the goof.

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