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    Didn't he light up Patty in NY a few times too?
    No, that was our other star PG. MVPorker

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    No, that was our other star PG. MVPorker
    Oh right. The guy who's coming back to our 4 PG roster "better than ever".

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    Didn't he light up Patty in NY a few times too?

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    I am disappointed in Mills being the main signing, but the amount of ing about his contract is unwarranted. So long as Murray is cheap, Patty's deal is more than fine. The Spurs are spending less on that position than a lot of teams -- and that's including Tony's deal. Patty's skill level warrants the contract; now PATFO has to actually make use of their roster.
    My main complaint is that I wanted the team to get better and they didn't do squat, paid more for the same backcourt they had last season that really underperformed and had trouble scoring when it mattered. That same crew just got more expensive. They are minus Tony and I have a lot of hope for Dijon but he hasn't been a model of efficiency and can turn into a TO machine in the blink of an eye. He needs to develop, and be given opportunities but not to carry the weight of having to rescue the Spurs from the mess they created with paying Tony and Patty.

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    Oh right. The guy who's coming back to our 4 PG roster "better than ever".

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    Can't wait until he comes back and takes Dejounte's minutes while Patty is building that Trump Wall with all the bricks he'll be chucking up.

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    I didn't want Mills, but using PER to judge a player in his role..
    Hes a rather high usage bench player whose role is scoring. any metric you cite will show he was terrible. lol

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    He also had one of the highest PERs and had a 50/50/95 series against LAC in '15 IIRC. He has his ups and downs. Typical hot and cold 6th man.
    Yes, and in that series the team lost bc Austin Rivers had a coming out party and ran all over him scoring at will.

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    Yes, and in that series the team lost bc Austin Rivers had a coming out party and ran all over him scoring at will.
    Typical Fatty. 9 points per!...Then proceeds to give up 10.

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    Yes, and in that series the team lost bc Austin Rivers had a coming out party and ran all over him scoring at will.
    Seriously, you too?

    No, the reason we lost is bc Pop decided to go down with Enrique who shot like 30% that series instead of rolling with Paddy who was having arguably his best series. Paddy was the far better option at PG by every single metric despite his struggles defending Doc Jr.

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    It's 2017 and Manu and Parker still have major roles on this team.

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    Teams that spend more on the PG position are getting more?

    Let me clarify, the teams that spend more are GETTING A LOT LOT LOT MORE

    And plenty of teams that spend less I bet are still getting more.

    Spurs find a middle ground of highly paid underperformance

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    It's 2017 and Manu and Parker still have major roles on this team.
    Someone has to run the offense from the bench while Fatty is running around chucking up bricks.

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    Seriously, you too? No, the reason we lost is bc Pop decided to go down with Enrique who shot like 30% that series instead of rolling with Paddy who was having arguably his best series. Paddy was the far better option at PG by every single metric despite his struggles defending Doc Jr.
    I really don't want to get on Patty individually, but I did expect the Spurs to make a move to improve bc they had issues with the backcourt going on two seasons at least. They didn't do squat so I am not a happy camper. I will get over it eventually, I suppose. I don't hate neither Tony nor Patty... but I did want someone better even if it's more expensive, bc you do pay for talent, but Pop loves both too much. He wasn't going to trade Tony much to everyone's dismay, and now he's letting us know hes' standing pat with the two of them. Only hope again is Dijon's development, which is a lot to put on a 21 year old that still needs to develop his game.

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    Real money? You realize the highest paid players make $40 mill/yr nowadays, right? You idiots need to stop thinking you are the authority on what is or isn't fair value. The current CBA and market dictates that, not you.
    This would make more sense if the Spurs had tons of cash to pay max contracts for the players they need to compete with GSW. But they don't so it doesn't. Nice try, though.

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    Gloating is generally not my style, but considering all the heat I took, I think I've earned it. Not only was I steadfast that he'd be re-signed, but that it would be in this range. Don't know if he actually took less in total than what Nets were offering or if he got about the same, but did for a lesser average annual value though.

    Really, anyone who's followed them long and closely enough should have seen this coming. They're a predictable, narrow minded organization, that's clearly become antiquated and content with just being good . . . they keep doing stupid things like this and they'll deserve to lose Leonard.

    At the apologists who acted like I didn't know what would happen and should wait to complain.
    At the notion of '18 flexibility. Said all along it was a myth because they'd likely spend much of it on significant raises to in bent players, so they can lock in a team that already wasn't good enough and has fallen further back.

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    Gloating is generally not my style, but considering all the heat I took, I think I've earned it. Not only was I steadfast that he'd be re-signed, but that it would be in this range. Don't know if he actually took less in total than what Nets were offering or if he got about the same, but did for a lesser average annual value though.

    Really, anyone who's followed them long and closely enough should have seen this coming. They're a predictable, narrow minded organization, that's clearly become antiquated and content with just being good . . . they keep doing stupid things like this and they'll deserve to lose Leonard.

    At the apologists who acted like I didn't know what would happen and should wait to complain.
    At the notion of '18 flexibility. Said all along it was a myth because they'd likely spend much of it on significant raises to in bent players, so they can lock in a team that already wasn't good enough and has fallen further back.
    Meh. Priority one next off season is sign Parker. Then the other chips will fall in place.

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    Gloating is generally not my style, but considering all the heat I took, I think I've earned it. Not only was I steadfast that he'd be re-signed, but that it would be in this range. Don't know if he actually took less in total than what Nets were offering or if he got about the same, but did for a lesser average annual value though.

    Really, anyone who's followed them long and closely enough should have seen this coming. They're a predictable, narrow minded organization, that's clearly become antiquated and content with just being good . . . they keep doing stupid things like this and they'll deserve to lose Leonard.

    At the apologists who acted like I didn't know what would happen and should wait to complain.
    At the notion of '18 flexibility. Said all along it was a myth because they'd likely spend much of it on significant raises to in bent players, so they can lock in a team that already wasn't good enough and has fallen further back.
    On this one, you're Shaq, ST is Dudley.


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    The Warriors are offering Iggy 13-15M and the Spurs are paying Mills 12.5M? The Spurs should have put some incentives in there like being able to score more than 7ppg in an important playoff series.

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    I wonder when we'll find out if year 4 is normal, player option, team option, partial guarantee?

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    Gloating is generally not my style, but considering all the heat I took, I think I've earned it. Not only was I steadfast that he'd be re-signed, but that it would be in this range. Don't know if he actually took less in total than what Nets were offering or if he got about the same, but did for a lesser average annual value though.

    Really, anyone who's followed them long and closely enough should have seen this coming. They're a predictable, narrow minded organization, that's clearly become antiquated and content with just being good . . . they keep doing stupid things like this and they'll deserve to lose Leonard.

    At the apologists who acted like I didn't know what would happen and should wait to complain.
    At the notion of '18 flexibility. Said all along it was a myth because they'd likely spend much of it on significant raises to in bent players, so they can lock in a team that already wasn't good enough and has fallen further back.
    Noted

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    The Warriors are offering Iggy 13-15M and the Spurs are paying Mills 12.5M? The Spurs should have put some incentives in there like being able to score more than 7ppg in an important playoff series.

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    Still using a flawed stat that rewards chuckers like Kyrie and Porker in 2017

    https://skepticalsports.com/the-case...tional-wisdom/
    I was gonna point this out.

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    I'm awake. Anyone ing is gonna get relegated.

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    Seriously, you too?

    No, the reason we lost is bc Pop decided to go down with Enrique who shot like 30% that series instead of rolling with Paddy who was having arguably his best series. Paddy was the far better option at PG by every single metric despite his struggles defending Doc Jr.
    I agree in that series it seemed Patty seemed the better option. Helped get that crucial game 2 win. Meanwhile TP missing fastbreak layups cost game 7.

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